Good job... nice find.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Ottalini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDM:Source Clients not working (topic change)


Ahhh that was the clue I needed, VAC is causing the clients to crash on
hldm:s right now!

I disabled VAC and players are on there again.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDM:Source Clients not working (topic change)


>I don't see your dedicated server on the list - what is your IP? Oh, nm,
> there you are. The list seems to be flaky - people popping in and out, you
> were not there earlier. Something funny here - I can connect to my server
> fine, and others are there - 7 players right now. However, if I try to
> connect to your server my client crashes. Not sure why. Same crash I get
> if
> I try to run a listen server. I also can't connect to Is1337 server. And
> I'm
> not sure why my server is not VAC secured.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Ottalini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDM:Source Clients not working (topic change)
>
>
>> My dedicated server is running ok but no one can connect, same thing when
>> I
>> try any of my clients.
>>
>> If I run a listenserver (map stalkyard in console for example) it starts
>> up
>> momentarily, I might get into the map and run around for a second or two
>> then I get disconencted and in console I see this repeating over and
>> over:
>>
>> Disconnect: Response timed out
>> Disconnect: Response timed out
>> Disconnect: Response timed out
>>
>> So I'm presuming that anyone that hasn't restarted steam in the last day
>> or
>> so can still connect.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ook"
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them?
>>
>>
>>>> Servers, even hacked ones have no control over clients displaying ads.
>>>
>>> I'm not familiar how the ads are being displayed, so I can't comment on
>>> whether you can stop it from happening at the server, or maybe at a map
>>> level. I would not dismiss the option of actually stopping it from
>>> happening
>>> at the server level, but I would not do it personally - I'm allergic to
>>> Land
>>> Shark Attacks.
>>>
>>> I wonder if a recent Steam update broke the listen servers? My dedicated
>>> hl1mp:source server is running fine, but I haven't updated it recently,
>>> either (been there, done that, still smarting from my recent bout of
>>> stupidity...). My client can connect just fine, others are there now.
>>> However, I can't start a dedicated server - it crashes. Don't have time
>>> to
>>> play with it right now. Looks like there are only 3 servers up right
>>> now,
>>> 2
>>> are dedicated, and I don't know about the third.
>>>
>>> I thought you ran a dedicated server? Or am I thinking about someone
>>> else?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks like HLDM:Source is dead at the moment, I can't even run a
>>>> listenserver right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ook"
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Loose what account? My Steam accounts are not tied to my servers in
>>>>> any
>>>>> way,
>>>>> nor does Valve have any way to determine which accounts are mine even
>>>>> if
>>>>> they did find I had a hacked server that was not displayig any ads.
>>>>> OTOH,
>>>>> I
>>>>> hope we don't have to hack servers to disable advertisements. Valve
>>>>> looks
>>>>> the other way when we have to hack content to get a hl1mp source
>>>>> server
>>>>> working, but hacking your server to disable advertisements is a real
>>>>> good
>>>>> way to get the Valve Land Sharks to come and visit you. Valve, like
>>>>> many
>>>>> companies, has grown to the point where they are not adverse to
>>>>> pissing
>>>>> off
>>>>> a few people if they can make more money in the long run, and they
>>>>> have
>>>>> a
>>>>> lot more money to throw at lawyers then most of us on this list do.
>>>>> Pity,
>>>>> really, but it seems to inevitably happen to companies as they become
>>>>> more
>>>>> and more successful
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at this from Valve's perspective. They know that advertisements
>>>>> will
>>>>> cause them to loose customers and the associated revenue. They also
>>>>> know
>>>>> that advertisements generate revenue. The real questions is, will they
>>>>> gain
>>>>> more from the advertisements then they will loose from the loss of
>>>>> customers? Valve thinks they will. Only time will tell whether it was
>>>>> a
>>>>> wise
>>>>> move or not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You are not allowed to remove them, according to Valve.
>>>>>> You are at risk os possibly losing your account if you do.
>>>>>> This is a guess at this time about losing the account. But I do know
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> that, that you are not allowed to.
>>>>>> I'm trying to get an FAQ made up for all the info that pertains to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ads.
>>>>
>>
>>
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