does anyone have a solution to removing these ads, or do we need to find someone to piddle the files, because i have noticed a HUGE decline in the purchase of cs 1.6 servers. a client complained the other day that his server was not doing well, and after visiting his server i saw why. what a shame this is. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: hlds digest, Vol 1 #5254 - 8 msgs
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(Gigabit Nick) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Subject: RE: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:59:30 -0500 > From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Commercials in movie theaters have nothing to do with the movie theater, th= > ey're built into the film (client side). Without the movie theaters Hollyw= > ood has no outlet for their films and without the servers Valve has no outl= > et for their MP games. > > Bottom line... your server is the equivalent of the screen in a movie theat= > er. Valve's movie is playing on your projector. There is only one Valve b= > ut an almost limitless number of projectors... those currently in operation= > and those that will take their place in the event the current projectors (= > servers) drop out. > > TBH... it's amazing Valve has lasted this long. The original game was so g= > ood that it's carried them well past what would normally be considered a re= > asonable product life. Valve must evolve or go the way of Acclaim Entertai= > nment. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Ottalini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > > > One thing I thought I would toss out here is that the in-game ads are purel= > y > client-side and servers (and server admins and operators) have nothing to d= > o > with providing them, control over them or with being involved with promotin= > g > the ads or the ad content. > > Even though I personally don't enjoy having non-original content on maps > while I play, this issue is similar to player sprays except the ads will > never have any porn or abusive content. > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, plea= > se visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 03:30:13 +1100 > From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > Reply-To: [email protected] > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > The Cinema is allowed to play their own ads and thereby generate revenue, to > people brought to the Cinema by the movie made by Hollywood. > > On 3/9/07, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Commercials in movie theaters have nothing to do with the movie theater, > > they're built into the film (client side). Without the movie theaters > > Hollywood has no outlet for their films and without the servers Valve has no > > outlet for their MP games. > > > > Bottom line... your server is the equivalent of the screen in a movie > > theater. Valve's movie is playing on your projector. There is only one > > Valve but an almost limitless number of projectors... those currently in > > operation and those that will take their place in the event the current > > projectors (servers) drop out. > > > > TBH... it's amazing Valve has lasted this long. The original game was so > > good that it's carried them well past what would normally be considered a > > reasonable product life. Valve must evolve or go the way of Acclaim > > Entertainment. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Ottalini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:45 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > > > > > > One thing I thought I would toss out here is that the in-game ads are > > purely > > client-side and servers (and server admins and operators) have nothing to > > do > > with providing them, control over them or with being involved with > > promoting > > the ads or the ad content. > > > > Even though I personally don't enjoy having non-original content on maps > > while I play, this issue is similar to player sprays except the ads will > > never have any porn or abusive content. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:10:20 +0300 > From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > Reply-To: [email protected] > > The only difference is that in our case Valve sells tickets to our theaters= > ... > > On 08/03/07, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Commercials in movie theaters have nothing to do with the movie theater, = > they're built into the film (client side). Without the movie theaters Holl= > ywood has no outlet for their films and without the servers Valve has no ou= > tlet for their MP games. > > > > Bottom line... your server is the equivalent of the screen in a movie the= > ater. Valve's movie is playing on your projector. There is only one Valve= > but an almost limitless number of projectors... those currently in operati= > on and those that will take their place in the event the current projectors= > (servers) drop out. > > > > TBH... it's amazing Valve has lasted this long. The original game was so= > good that it's carried them well past what would normally be considered a = > reasonable product life. Valve must evolve or go the way of Acclaim Entert= > ainment. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Ottalini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:45 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > > > > > > One thing I thought I would toss out here is that the in-game ads are pur= > ely > > client-side and servers (and server admins and operators) have nothing to= > do > > with providing them, control over them or with being involved with promot= > ing > > the ads or the ad content. > > > > Even though I personally don't enjoy having non-original content on maps > > while I play, this issue is similar to player sprays except the ads will > > never have any porn or abusive content. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, pl= > ease visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, pl= > ease visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:17:47 -0600 > From: Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > Reply-To: [email protected] > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > No, actually they're putting the ads in our theaters. > > Selling tickets to the theaters would equate to Valve charging a fee for > people to join servers. > > Just wanted to point that one out. =) > > On 3/8/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The only difference is that in our case Valve sells tickets to our > > theaters... > > > > On 08/03/07, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Commercials in movie theaters have nothing to do with the movie theater, > > they're built into the film (client side). Without the movie theaters > > Hollywood has no outlet for their films and without the servers Valve has no > > outlet for their MP games. > > > > > > Bottom line... your server is the equivalent of the screen in a movie > > theater. Valve's movie is playing on your projector. There is only one > > Valve but an almost limitless number of projectors... those currently in > > operation and those that will take their place in the event the current > > projectors (servers) drop out. > > > > > > TBH... it's amazing Valve has lasted this long. The original game was > > so good that it's carried them well past what would normally be considered a > > reasonable product life. Valve must evolve or go the way of Acclaim > > Entertainment. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Ottalini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:45 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > > > > > > > > > One thing I thought I would toss out here is that the in-game ads are > > purely > > > client-side and servers (and server admins and operators) have nothing > > to do > > > with providing them, control over them or with being involved with > > promoting > > > the ads or the ad content. > > > > > > Even though I personally don't enjoy having non-original content on maps > > > while I play, this issue is similar to player sprays except the ads will > > > never have any porn or abusive content. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "Chris Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:21:28 -0000 > Subject: [hlds] Voice and Voice text improvements. > Reply-To: [email protected] > > This is a multipart message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Where's the BETA? > > > > Gabe, Doug, Alfred > > > > Any improvements to Source, mean absolutely NOTHING but blood, sweat, tears > and heartache for us server operators unless there is a beta. I thought we > was getting somewhere with this point. I thought you guys had taken onboard > our concerns regarding updates to Source. > > > > But it seems you're not listening. > > > > If you're going to cause me problems on every update and you're not going to > listen to concerns of server operators. Why should I should bother running > servers which are running Source? Why not build my community around servers > that I know I can keep running without being sabotaged by the very people > who make the game? > > > > If there has been a beta going on for the improved voice and text, that I am > not aware of, then please accept my apologies. But if you haven't done a > beta program and you are just going to dump this update on us tomorrow, then > us server operators are one step closer to finding different games to host. > > > > Chris Barnett > > > > > > -- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: "J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:43:59 -0500 > Organization: Hi-Definition Gaming LLC > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Not quite. Valve would be selling tickets to enter the theater showing > VALVe "movies", once inside they still have to pay us to get into the > theater. So they would be making cash on the entry for the 'theater' and > for the ad impressions for those who pay us to host their "movie". I hate > metaphors. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cc2iscooL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No, actually they're > putting the ads in our theaters. > > Selling tickets to the theaters would equate to Valve charging a fee for > people to join servers. > > Just wanted to point that one out. =) > > On 3/8/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The only difference is that in our case Valve sells tickets to our > > theaters... > > > > On 08/03/07, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Commercials in movie theaters have nothing to do with the movie > > > theater, > > they're built into the film (client side). Without the movie theaters > > Hollywood has no outlet for their films and without the servers Valve > > has no outlet for their MP games. > > > > > > Bottom line... your server is the equivalent of the screen in a > > > movie > > theater. Valve's movie is playing on your projector. There is only > > one Valve but an almost limitless number of projectors... those > > currently in operation and those that will take their place in the > > event the current projectors (servers) drop out. > > > > > > TBH... it's amazing Valve has lasted this long. The original game > > > was > > so good that it's carried them well past what would normally be > > considered a reasonable product life. Valve must evolve or go the way > > of Acclaim Entertainment. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Ottalini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:45 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > > > > > > > > > One thing I thought I would toss out here is that the in-game ads > > > are > > purely > > > client-side and servers (and server admins and operators) have > > > nothing > > to do > > > with providing them, control over them or with being involved with > > promoting > > > the ads or the ad content. > > > > > > Even though I personally don't enjoy having non-original content on > > > maps while I play, this issue is similar to player sprays except the > > > ads will never have any porn or abusive content. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > From: "Jason O. Washburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:31:51 -0600 > Reply-To: [email protected] > > :-( > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Hatsiev > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > > > The only difference is that in our case Valve sells tickets to our > theaters... > > On 08/03/07, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Commercials in movie theaters have nothing to do with the movie > > theater, they're built into the film (client side). Without the movie > > > theaters Hollywood has no outlet for their films and without the > > servers Valve has no outlet for their MP games. > > > > Bottom line... your server is the equivalent of the screen in a movie > > theater. Valve's movie is playing on your projector. There is only > > one Valve but an almost limitless number of projectors... those > > currently in operation and those that will take their place in the > > event the current projectors (servers) drop out. > > > > TBH... it's amazing Valve has lasted this long. The original game was > > > so good that it's carried them well past what would normally be > > considered a reasonable product life. Valve must evolve or go the way > > > of Acclaim Entertainment. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Ottalini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:45 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > > > > > > One thing I thought I would toss out here is that the in-game ads are > > purely client-side and servers (and server admins and operators) have > > nothing to do with providing them, control over them or with being > > involved with promoting the ads or the ad content. > > > > Even though I personally don't enjoy having non-original content on > > maps while I play, this issue is similar to player sprays except the > > ads will never have any porn or abusive content. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 > 10:58 AM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 > 10:58 AM > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > From: Gigabit Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:10:52 +0000 > Reply-To: [email protected] > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I'd say it's more like renting a TV & DVD player. > > You buy the movie from Valve, you rent the TV & DVD player from the server = > operators. You can play the Valve movie on the server admins TV &DVD player= > , but the people who rent you the TV & DVD player can't put ads into the Va= > lve movies. > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Subject: RE: = > [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them?> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:43:59 -= > 0500> > Not quite. Valve would be selling tickets to enter the theater show= > ing> VALVe "movies", once inside they still have to pay us to get into the>= > theater. So they would be making cash on the entry for the 'theater' and> = > for the ad impressions for those who pay us to host their "movie". I hate> = > metaphors.> > -----Original Message-----> From: Cc2iscooL [mailto:cc2iscool= > @gmail.com]> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:18 PM> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them?> > --> [= > Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No, actually they're> putti= > ng the ads in our theaters.> > Selling tickets to the theaters would equate= > to Valve charging a fee for> people to join servers.> > Just wanted to poi= > nt that one out. =3D)> > On 3/8/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote= > :> >> > The only difference is that in our case Valve sells tickets to our>= > > theaters...> >> > On 08/03/07, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >= > > Commercials in movie theaters have nothing to do with the movie> > > the= > ater,> > they're built into the film (client side). Without the movie theat= > ers> > Hollywood has no outlet for their films and without the servers Valv= > e> > has no outlet for their MP games.> > >> > > Bottom line... your server= > is the equivalent of the screen in a> > > movie> > theater. Valve's movie = > is playing on your projector. There is only> > one Valve but an almost limi= > tless number of projectors... those> > currently in operation and those tha= > t will take their place in the> > event the current projectors (servers) dr= > op out.> > >> > > TBH... it's amazing Valve has lasted this long. The origi= > nal game> > > was> > so good that it's carried them well past what would no= > rmally be> > considered a reasonable product life. Valve must evolve or go = > the way> > of Acclaim Entertainment.> > >> > >> > > -----Original Message--= > ---> > > From: Kevin Ottalini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: W= > ednesday, March 07, 2007 9:45 PM> > > To: [email protected]> > > = > Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them?> > >> > >> > > One t= > hing I thought I would toss out here is that the in-game ads> > > are> > pu= > rely> > > client-side and servers (and server admins and operators) have> >= > > nothing> > to do> > > with providing them, control over them or with bei= > ng involved with> > promoting> > > the ads or the ad content.> > >> > > Eve= > n though I personally don't enjoy having non-original content on> > > maps = > while I play, this issue is similar to player sprays except the> > > ads wi= > ll never have any porn or abusive content.> > >> > >> > > _________________= > ______________________________> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferen= > ces, or view the list> > > archives,> > please visit:> > > http://list.valv= > esoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > >> > > _____________________________= > __________________> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view= > the list> > > archives,> > please visit:> > > http://list.valvesoftware.co= > m/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > >> >> > ________________________________________= > _______> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list arc= > hives,> > please visit:> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/h= > lds> >> --> > _______________________________________________> To unsubscri= > be, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,> please visit:> = > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> > > __________________= > _____________________________> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, = > or view the list archives, please visit:> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mai= > lman/listinfo/hlds > _________________________________________________________________ > News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. 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