That is what I thought. And I'm not disagreeing with you, either. How hard
would it be to allow hldsupdatetool to download hl1mp if the person
downloading it supplied a steam account id/password that owned Half-Life
Source Deathmatch?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] hl1mp out of date, please restart server. Now what?


Because is would mean giving away Half-Life 1: Source for free,
something we aren't interested in doing at this time for the reason of
allowing hldsupdatetool to work with it.

- Alfred

Ook wrote:
I can't believe there is any technical reason why it can't be made
available
via hldsupdatetool. If I and others can assemble a fileset that
works, so
can hldsupdatetool. I can, however, believe that internal politics or
policies at Valve will prevent it.

But then, I don't really know exactly how the update process works.
Why
can't it ever work with hldsupdatetool?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] hl1mp out of date, please restart server. Now
what?


You need to do whatever magic you did the first time to get the
updated hl1mp content we released this last week, that is why you
are out of date. Certain design choices with HL1MP preclude it from
ever working with the hldsupdatetool unfortunately :(

- Alfred

Ook wrote:
Alfred, I would be very surprised indeed if Valve was not aware
that several of use are running hl1mp source *dedicated* servers,
and not from the in-game UI (you did know this, didn't you????).
It's not that difficult - first you use hldsupdatetool to install
hl2mp. Anyone can do this, you don't even need a steam account.
Then you do as I've outlined below and copy the stuff from the GCF
files I've listed. One can only do this if they actually own the
game. Then you start the server:

srcds -game hl1mp

I've been doing this for a while now, as have others. It works very
well. We do this because the hldsupdatetool does not support hl1mp,
and who here actually uses the in-steam dedicated server? Also,
using the listen server option from the game itself is extremely
unreliable.

So, what would it take to get hldsupdatetool to support -game
hl1mp? Will you accept bribes? Our undying gratitude? My first born
son?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] hl1mp out of date, please restart server. Now
what?


HL1DM:S currently only supports servers created by the in-game UI
currently, I am not sure how you are running one with the SRCDS
tool (so I suspect this is a hell of your own making :)

I will see if we can have the in-Steam SRCDS program offer HL1DM
to people that own the game.

- Alfred

Ook wrote:
Why is it everytime Valve releases an update I go through update
hell? So....I start my hl1mp source server, and I get:

?MasterRequestRestart
Your server is out of date.  Please update and restart.

So, I started over. Deleted everything. Created a new install of
hl2mp. Overwrote stuff from the following GCFs:

half-life deathmatch source gcf
half-life source deathmatch client gcf
half-life source gcf

Updated my cfgs as needed. Start server. Same thing. This always
worked in the past. My next step is to delete my GCFs, and let
steam download them again to make sure they really current. I see
hl1mp servers with players in them, so...what am I missing?

status
hostname:  Ooks Steaming Pile of Crap
version : 1.0.0.0/7 3048 secure
udp/ip  :  10.0.0.2:27015
map     :  dms_snug at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z
players :  0 (12 max)


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