Valve deliberately made an update to make 32 slot serves unviable.

It wasn't some kind of side effect from a feature they wanted to support.

That's what the admin community are sick and tired of. Not side effects, but
deliberate and intentional acts by Valve to actually break the freakin mods.

That's why they don't want to run beta tests. If they cared about vast
majority of server admins out there, they would bother to run a beta on all
the server releases. Tell me that it's unviable to a beta, then I'll dismiss
you as a complete noob to this mailing list as you obviously haven't been
reading the in-depth and ignored proposals for a beta on all server
releases.

Chris.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Porter
Sent: 15 October 2007 16:34
To: [email protected]
Subject: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

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Oh give it a rest Dan.

  A lot of people are getting sick of the constent whiny posts (thanks to
those who sent support on this btw!) asking the same questions and not
getting answers.
  Its obvious to me, tom, dick and his pet frigging dog your not going to
get an answer, is that a good thing? No im not saying that but for the sake
and respect of everyone else on the list if you want to constantly complain
over and over again do it on the steam forums where it seems to be
impossible to put a problem to bed and we can ignore it.

  Plugin or modded bins, either way is that how valve intended it to be run?
no its not is it, how hard is that to grasp?
  If you choose to mod a server in any way shape or form thats fine, we all
do it no problems there but if valve dont want to support the changes that
were made outside of their control then fair enough. You dont stick a
porsche engine in a ford and then take it to a ford garage because the
bloddy engine doesnt fit do you?
  Its not a feature that valve have introduced and its not something they
have to support and asking them questions about it and demanding answers is
like beating your head against the wall.

  That sir is there within the problem that you are inflicting on us all,
its not just this it was people asking stupid questions like filtering out
custom maps from the client browser just so he didnt have to play ep1 style
content, omg give us a break.

  If I install a mod and the mod then makes my server incompatible in some
way shap or form ill go to the modder and sort it out with him.  If I
promise to sell 32 man servers to people on some dodgy frigging hack that
valve dont want anything to do with then I bite the bullet and apologise to
my customers for jumping the gun trying to get a few easy quid in the
pocket.
  Live and learn, thats the experience of life.

  I dont think anyone has a problem with people asking off post questions
now and again its when people just go on and on and on and on ... hang on a
minute I need to find another duracell to repower the on and on part.....
moaning, whining and slagging off valve when its obvious they are not going
to give an answer if you keep on like that.

  It would be nice to have an official stance, didnt say it wasnt but I
certanly wont let the whining bully boys push me around like they have done
to everyone else who has asked for them to stop please.

  Now ill explain the last bit in terms you might just understand, no
offence intended there but you dont seem to understand why I said I wasnt
going to reply in 1st, out of respect for the other users I acknoweldged
that my posts whining about them whining wasnt helping matters but thank you
for pointing that out again and out of respect and for the sanity of
everyone else said I wasnt going to rise to the bully boy possie and reply
if you couldnt understand why others were getting upset.

  Why because everything that needed to be said had been said, obviously not
but hey this isnt a forum if you wish to carry on being childish and
attempting to be insulting then so be it.

  I have far more important things to do then play internet rambling with
people who have no respect for other users and think its ME ME ME im
important I dont care about anyone else valve shafted me wah wah I must
whine.

  Whatever, I apologise to those whome I may have offended by raising to the
bait and seriously I DO ... no lets not do the big letter game, I do
understand that this is not helping matters and dont wish to carry on acting
being exactly the same as the guys who do have no respect for others, not a
case of im right and your not which you seem to be very ... no I wont do
that im a mature adult and able to finish something without provoking people
into a reply when there's really no need to say owt more!

  As you say, dont like the complaint's then theres a delete key.

  Cheers
  John

  [waffle waffle]
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Honestly, you are not helping the situation. If you don't like the bickerin=
g, there's always the delete button.  But, you decided to make matters wors=
e with a rather long (and somewhat redundant) email complaining about peopl=
e who are complaining.  Not to mention, you speak of ignorance when you you=
rself are being ignorant of the subject; there were legit server plugins th=
at were doing this without the modifications of the server bins.

People are asking a reasonable question: Why impose just a 24 player limit =
and not let the server admins choose?  All Valve has to do is release a sta=
tement on it.  And it does have something to do with servers: when a plugin=
 is being run to cause 32 player servers not to show up, your server will n=
ot get seen at all, therefore not played on.  Personally, I have not played=
 the game nor run the client, but this is getting ridiculous.

And IMO, from a bystander's point on the situation, you appear more from th=
e Steam forums than anybody else has.  Especially with that "I'm right and =
I'm not listening to anything else you have to say lalalalala" at the end.



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