WRONG!

Valve didn't go after any mods, they simply delisted servers that had 32
slots, a side effect of running a legit plugin.

Chris.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hell Phoenix
Sent: 15 October 2007 18:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from the
steam master servers, without any annoucment.

WRONG!  We were running a beta low grav server until the update or two
before the final release (the same one that killed 32 player servers).

You dont have to run a vanilla server...just one that doesnt hack the
dll in memory (or use a hacked dll).

Chris Barnett wrote:
> The cvar for low grav was never implemented on TF2 in the first place. It
> was never "removed" and you would have been the first to download a plugin
> if that plugin had gotten around it.
>
> *Then* at that point, you would have been the first to complain *if* it
had
> been servers with a low-grav / hack / plugin that was deliberately pulled
> from the list.
>
> Don't you understand what is at stake here?
>
> Answer this question please:
>
> How can I ensure that my server is left on the freakin server list in
> future?
>
> Valve are taking the piss. They are taking it to a new level and upping
the
> stakes to tell all server admins that their servers can be removed from
the
> list at anytime, if their servers are not 100% vanilla.
>
> Who the **** is going to want to run a 100% vanilla server other than for
> professional matches?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hell Phoenix
> Sent: 15 October 2007 18:03
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from the
> steam master servers, without any annoucment.
>
> And beating a dead horse wont resurrect him.  I ran a low grav server,
> and they took away that cvar.  Our community is pissed, but you dont see
> me sending out a gazillion emails.  Valve will never respond, just like
> they havent in the past.  If they dont respond, then their is no
> problem.  Like I said, get over it.  People sending emails isnt going to
> do anything.
>
> Chris Barnett wrote:
>
>> If this doesn't affect you, or you aren't interested, you don't have to
>> reply.
>>
>> A lot of people are angry about this and it's not going to die.
>>
>> You can't guarantee that Valve won't randomly remove servers from the
>>
> lists
>
>> in future.
>>
>> This is a serious issue. It could be your servers next.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hell Phoenix
>> Sent: 15 October 2007 17:36
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from the
>> steam master servers, without any annoucment.
>>
>> Get over it and move on....just like every time something like this has
>> happened in the past.
>>
>> Chris Barnett wrote:
>>
>>
>>> This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>>> --
>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's run a book on which servers Valve will randomly filter out next,
>>> without even so much as the decency to tell us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1)      Australian servers. Let's face it, it's those pesky Australians
>>>
>>>
>> who
>>
>>
>>> are so far up Valves sweet asses it must be embarrassing for Valve.
Those
>>> Australians need to be taught a lesson to counter balance all of that
>>> Pacific rimming that's going on.
>>>
>>> 2)      Servers that have an unusually high number of players with 8
>>>
>>>
>> digits.
>>
>>
>>> Come on let's face it. The 8 digit crew are all noobs, snotty nosed
>>> teenagers and haxors.
>>>
>>> 3)      Servers outside the Western United States that have an unusually
>>> high number of players with 6 digits. If a server attracts the old and
>>>
>>>
>> wise,
>>
>>
>>> they're community is going to be too smug.
>>>
>>> 4)      Servers running FF.
>>>
>>> 5)      Servers that sends the player into a different world where there
>>>
>>>
>> is
>>
>>
>>> 1000's of custom skins and the admins have been sad enough to invest 500
>>>
>>>
>> odd
>>
>>
>>> man hours into creating a work of art, not to mention the modding
>>> communities whose total output dwarfs anything that has come out of
>>>
> Valve.
>
>>> 6)      Servers that attract the top players. C'mon something has to be
>>> wrong, they're all hacking.
>>>
>>> 7)      Servers that attract too many noobs. No scrub that, they're all
>>>
> in
>
>>> Washington State.
>>>
>>> 8)      Servers that are running that new plugin, which lies about the
>>>
>>>
>> total
>>
>>
>>> number of available slots.there's 32 slots but 24 are advertised!!!
>>>
>>> 9)      Servers with unsuitable chat language for minors.
>>>
>>> 10)   Servers with 2 slots, passworded, that say "Valve doesn't listen
to
>>> server admins" as their server name.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Right. That's my list. Odds anyone?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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