How is 24 man not enough for you????????? To the point you will stop playing
the game! What if the mod hadn't come along - would you still stop playing
it.... ?

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From: "Andreas Grimm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:50 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly remove from the
steam master servers, without any annoucment.

I installed a plugin to have a 32 slot TF2 server. No hex edit/hack or
something like that. It was a normal plugin --> And my server is still
removed from the serverlist.

Give a community the support to create addons/plugins/mod, but remove
their
servers if they use it... great!

What should I do now? Live with it? ... No...

Two options:
- Shut down my server to run something else
- Reduce to 24 slot with the known, that I will never play on my server,
because it is too empty for me? --> Result is a not needed server --> Shut
down to run something else...

grr

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
Thomas Morton
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Oktober 2007 19:21
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly
remove from the steam master servers, without any annoucment.

There's no need to be rude or offensive! If this has to be
discussed then lets at least do it sensibly.

Anyway.....

Valve dont appear to be randomly removing servers with mods
from the lists, they have apparently removed servers running
mods that allow 32 players. It occurs to me they must have a
reason for this (it is not as if it appears to be a
particularly harmful mod).

I very much doubt Valve are going to begin to removing
servers running any mods they deem unsuitable (MetaMod:Source
anyone?? :P). So far there has been no reason for this
removal - nothing from Valve. Either they are not going to
say anything or there is a reason for the silence. There
could still be a very valid reason for removing the 32 man
capacity! (No one seems to care about that possibility).

Either Valve will say something concrete or we will never
know. If not being able to run 32 man servers is putting many
people off running servers, or if it is killing many
communities or if it is putting many players off the game
because they can only play with 24 people I have no idea -
but I would hazard it is not very many.

Lets just face it 32 man servers are gone for the time being
- it's not a great thing but there it is. Maybe we should
look to getting what we have on offer running stably and get
some good mods going :) I have 7 TF2 servers going now (4 for
one community 3 for another) and they are all starting to hit
their maxes - so it is going well.  The 7th server I launched
yesterday as the others were getting full.  That's working
out as better solution for the communities than 6 32 man
servers actually.
Tom

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From: "Chris Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:00 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly
remove from the steam master servers, without any annoucment.

> Oh and Jonathon,
>
> Hinsight is such a great thing isn't it? Well, we've taken
note. When
> you're server and you're community is affected by Valves
heavy handed
> arrogance, we'll mock you like there was no tomorrow.
>
> You couldn't see that listing update coming and neither could we.
> Soooooooooooo.....
>
> What makes you think your server is going to be immune forever?
>
> What's that you said? You are going to keeps yours vanilla?
>
> TF2. R.I.P.
>
>
> Chris.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Leissler
> Sent: 15 October 2007 17:33
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers that will Valve will randomly
remove from
> the steam master servers, without any annoucment.
>
> I think people just need to grow up.
>
> Valve intended by design for their to be a 24 player limit.
They can
> and will do whats in their best interest and/or needs. They never
> intended (at this
> time) to be above 24 people so they filtered them out.
> They have the right to do so.
>
> Don't like it? Then don't run a server. No one is forcing you to do
> anything.
>
>
> --- Kyrios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Supposed
to be funny
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> zzzZZZzzz
>>
>> On 10/15/07, Chris Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>> > --
>> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Let's run a book on which servers Valve will
>> randomly filter out next,
>> > without even so much as the decency to tell us.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 1)      Australian servers. Let's face it, it's
>> those pesky Australians
>> > who
>> > are so far up Valves sweet asses it must be
>> embarrassing for Valve. Those
>> > Australians need to be taught a lesson to counter
>> balance all of that
>> > Pacific rimming that's going on.
>> >
>> > 2)      Servers that have an unusually high number
>> of players with 8
>> > digits.
>> > Come on let's face it. The 8 digit crew are all
>> noobs, snotty nosed
>> > teenagers and haxors.
>> >
>> > 3)      Servers outside the Western United States
>> that have an unusually
>> > high number of players with 6 digits. If a server
>> attracts the old and
>> > wise,
>> > they're community is going to be too smug.
>> >
>> > 4)      Servers running FF.
>> >
>> > 5)      Servers that sends the player into a
>> different world where there
>> > is
>> > 1000's of custom skins and the admins have been
>> sad enough to invest 500
>> > odd
>> > man hours into creating a work of art, not to
>> mention the modding
>> > communities whose total output dwarfs anything
>> that has come out of Valve.
>> >
>> > 6)      Servers that attract the top players.
>> C'mon something has to be
>> > wrong, they're all hacking.
>> >
>> > 7)      Servers that attract too many noobs. No
>> scrub that, they're all in
>> > Washington State.
>> >
>> > 8)      Servers that are running that new plugin,
>> which lies about the
>> > total
>> > number of available slots.there's 32 slots but 24
>> are advertised!!!
>> >
>> > 9)      Servers with unsuitable chat language for
>> minors.
>> >
>> > 10)   Servers with 2 slots, passworded, that say
>> "Valve doesn't listen to
>> > server admins" as their server name.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Right. That's my list. Odds anyone?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
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