bots in TF2 ? :P

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2's popularity definitely slipping fast WAS Internet
vs. Custom Tab

Do these stats include bot players?

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:47 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been following the custom tab topic through the digest for a few
> weeks.  In general, I agree that the custom tab seems like a really bad
> idea.  However, Valve probably figured that they had to do _something_ to
> try to get players back.  Take a look at the history graph that Zeitgeist
> keeps for online FPSes:
>
> http://www.onlinegamingzeitgeist.com/games/
>
> TF2 has gone from a high of 3rd overall to 19th.    It has seen its online
> player count go from from a high of 11,000 players back in late October
> down
> below 1,400 players today, and the slide shows no sign of stopping.  It's
> slid so far, you have to go down to the bottom graph in order to get a
> good
> view of its current status.  Meanwhile, CS and CS: are dominating the
> charts
> with online player counts at 95,000 and 50,000 respectively. (#3 CoD4 is
> hovering a bit below 15,000.)
>
> I don't think it's any single event that's driving the player count down.
> Personally, I just don't find the game as much fun to keep playing over
> the
> long haul as I thought I would.  Based upon this chart, I'm clearly not
> alone in feeling that way.
>
> I wish I could put my finger on why the mod is doing so badly.
>  Personally,
> I thought the original TF on QW was a fantastic mod.  I played it to death
> and played a lot of TFC, too.  (TFC, btw, is chugging along with just
> under
> 1,000 players.)
>
> The implication of all this is that we TF2 server administrators have to
> ask
> ourselves whether it's worth our time to keep our servers up if we can't
> keep them populated.  The custom tab fiasco hasn't helped what is clearly
> a
> bad situation.  Personally, I'm just about ready to shut my TF2 server
> down
> and find a game that people actually want to play.
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