no, yahoo sends replies to hlds list
he just sent me a private e-mail saying that he has a better understanding of 
VAC because he's a mod at steam forum. 
 
I never expected volunteer mods at steam forum to be helpful but I certainly 
didn't expect one of them to come to hlds list and call someone a troll for 
making a valid point.
 
now I gotta make another point:
 
they really need to train volunteer mods and recruit people that listen to 
others
not someone who looks down on others because he thinks he's better than others
 

--- On Sun, 6/1/08, Neil Voutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Neil Voutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [hlds] tf2 exploits/hacks
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
<[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 1:25 PM

or he sent it personally to be a Ooo lookit me i used to be a mod, i speak
with staff lol

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Tom Leighton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> He replied personally because your email client / webmail is setting a
> "Reply-to" address. When you hit Reply on your email client it
sets up
> an email to both or just one of the reply-to addresses.
>
> JDoc0512 wrote:
> > I'm not sure why you sent me a private e-mail apart from the hlds
mailing
> list
> > but this is the reply I sent
> >  
> > the last thing you said was "CS 1.4 didn't have
VAC.  Nice attempt
> at a troll though"
> >  
> >  
> > CS 1.4 had VAC
> >  
> > you sure are very knowledgeable
> >  
> > so much for being a mod at steam forum (mods are all just volunteers
> anyway, not trained or anything)
> >
> > --- On Sun, 6/1/08, Shawn Zipay
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Shawn Zipay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] tf2 exploits/hacks
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 9:12 AM
> >
> >
> > CS 1.4 didn't have VAC.  Nice attempt at a troll though.
> >
> > And how do I know?  Let's see, I used to be a mod on the
Steam
> forums and I still run a community site that grants me access to speaking
> with Valve staff members on a regular basis.  How do I
know?  Put
> 2 and 2 together.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:29 PM, JDoc0512
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > and what makes you think that you have a better understanding of VAC
than
> I do?
> > care to explain how VAC was like back in cs 1.4? that's of course
if you
> have any experience running cs servers back then
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 5/31/08, Shawn Zipay
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Shawn Zipay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] tf2 exploits/hacks
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Saturday, May 31, 2008, 1:37 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't believe you have much of an understanding how VAC works
then for
> you to make that request/claim then.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 8:47 AM, JDoc0512
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > that means make it more secure so that it can detect more hacks
faster
> and better
> >  
> > but your question is pointless
> >
> >
>
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