That is not my line of reasoning at all. Could you please point out where I addressed the length of bans?
I merely said that cross-game banning would be a greater deterrent than single game banning. If it was technically feasible, I could fully support a system that allowed for bans to be time-limited dependent on mitigating factors like the age of the person when he first cheated. Additionally, your analogies are appeals to emotion as there is little similarity between cheating and being banned in a video game and taking away someones freedom to move (prison). If we're going to use such analogies yours still don't hold. Since we're talking about cross-domain and not length of punishment, a more appropriate analogy would be this: How much of a deterrent would prison be if you could commit a crime and then go to the neighboring town and not have to worry about prison time? On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Leonard L. Church <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By your logic, if someone robs a bank and goes to prison, then they > should get life as it's impossible to change. > > Or if you get caught with pot or push someone or anything that can land > you in jail for a few months or so (contempt of court even), they should > never be let loose since they will just do it again. > > That is the logic I see you presenting. I think (and thankfully, society > agrees with me) that you are using flawed logic. Either that or I'm not > understanding your point of view. > > Dustin Wyatt wrote: >> What did you say besides what boils down to "I don't agree" to prove >> that the logic is bullshit? >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:04 AM, tgnwells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Well I am someone who happens to be VAC banned on the HL1 engine, on the >>> same account I keep all my Source engine games no less. FYI, I have >>> never used hacks, so if you're going to ban me from your dedicated >>> servers (which I probably won't even notice or care) you should at least >>> know your logic is bullshit. >>> >>> Tony Paloma wrote: >>>> I'm definitely in favor. Banning people who cheated in other engines will >>>> suffice in the mean time. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dustin Wyatt >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:04 PM >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Hacker >>>> >>>> That's not true, I actually can think of better deterrents but I don't >>>> think most people would be in favor of jail time for cheaters. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Dustin Wyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you hack on one engine, you're likely to hack on another. Even if >>>>> that wasn't true, I can't think of a better deterrent than thread of >>>>> banning from all Valve games. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:30 PM, tgnwells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's a stupid idea. Hey, I'm vac banned on the HL1 engine, therefore I >>>>>> must hack in every game I own, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> Donnie Newlove wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, his VAC status does not look good for him so its true that he is >>>>>>> a cheater, but he has probably not been caught by VAC on the Source >>>>>>> engine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This plugin still does not exist yet, but when it does it will change >>>>>>> that, I'm looking forward to it. >>>>>>> http://www.vacbanned.com/plugin.php >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Ben B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> So I wanted to play on my server, 18 poeple on it, filling up... so >>>>>>>> >>>> while I >>>> >>>>>>>> load, this hacker gets on with his aimbot/speed hack as sniper, and >>>>>>>> basically makes most people quit, there are only 5 people remaining >>>>>>>> >>>> when I >>>> >>>>>>>> get in game. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You have no Idea how enraged I was over this, I told him I was giving >>>>>>>> >>>> his ID >>>> >>>>>>>> to anyone I can find, so here I go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> nicknames: Pitty: like 1000? lol, [COTB]austantacious >>>>>>>> Steam Page: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197997419331 >>>>>>>> STEAM_ID: STEAM_0:1:18576801 >>>>>>>> IP: 24.2.199.151 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please ban this pile of crap from all your servers until vac gets him >>>>>>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>>>>>> something D:. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> From Ben B. 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