@SaintK I believe this is a case of "you can't have your cake and eat it too"
The search key by my interpretation of Valve is basically to tie a Lobby to a DS. You are asking to have the search key ALSO by public. Lobbies by default (no search key set) are looking to match map, difficulty, mode, and to some degree ping (theory). Why? Because the design is to give the players a choice on the game environment rather than viceversa, which is what all of us Admins are accustom to. This is my best reasoning for your situation and quite possibly Valve may implement another cvar to allow --> having and eating cake. If you want your servers publically available, then do not use the search key, dont do a lobby, as the alternative is for ppl that CAN see the server just join it directly. @cc2iscool I guess I would say that your issue is dictated by your choice on effort to educate. If you want your servers to be used only by your Community, then you know how to do that. If those ppl want to specifically join it by Lobby, they'll have to take the time to find out. Every client had to find out how to use the damn server browser (with/without Custom tab) etc. At this point, us server admins need to have an idea of what the purpose is for each of your DS'. For myself, it's desired to only be used by our Community as this greatly minimizes, if not completely irradicates players that sabotage. If you want a PUBLIC server, then ignore this configuration offering. -- [FLASH] MjrNuT Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality www.flamesandash.com > > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:37:02 +0100 > From: "Saint K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers > To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Any reason why the server won't fill when the search key is set? From what > I > understand its like a tag, but shouldn't block out others who are not using > the search key? After I set the search key, non of the 24 servers is > getting > player activity, other then community members. > > Cheers > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Major Nut > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers > > I guess people have not figured this out yet, but we have our server doing > all those things you are "petitioning for. Well, I have one exception to > your list and that is: No. 4. You just have to know how to use it. The > point of the key is basically a filter to tie the lobby leader to the > desired DS, nothing more. Our has been quite successful the entire last > week: > > server.cfg has these elements and nothing extra aside from hostname, rcon, > log commands: > > set steam group > no exclusive > set search key value, w/ no quotes > sv_allow_lobby connect cvar to 1 > > client setting: > > anyone wanting to be the lobby leader for that DS needs to enter in the > sv_search_key similarly. > > Here is a link to spell it out for those that feel this works just fine as > I'm not the only that has this working dandy: > > > http://www.velocity-servers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5365&pid=18873&st > =0&#entry18873<http://www.velocity-servers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5365&pid=18873&st=0&#entry18873> > > > -- > [FLASH] MjrNuT > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality > > www.flamesandash.com > > > ----------------------------- > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:46:47 -0600 > From: Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Yes, you can use that, but the problem is... > > Most people are too lazy or don't care enough about the servers they join > to > bother opening up their console every time they start their game and typing > sv_search_key whatever every time they want to play a game. Sure, some > community members that are big into your community might do so, but a lot > of > people don't even know how to open the console, let alone type that > command. > I've tried to educate my community on it, but it's not easy as people just > don't want to take the time to do it. > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
