Sv_search_key is just not a good solution at the moment. Yeah, it works, but
you often can't use it more than once without restarting the server in
between matches, and sometimes it just doesn't work altogether for some
unknown reason.

2008/12/2 Philip Bembridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The matchmaking DOES NOT search for current map, difficulty and mode
>
> The matchmaking changes them as it sees fit...
>
> Regards, Phil
>
> 2008/12/2 Major Nut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > @SaintK
> >  I believe this is a case of "you can't have your cake and eat it too"
> >
> > The search key by my interpretation of Valve is basically to tie a Lobby
> to
> > a DS.  You are asking to have the search key ALSO by public.  Lobbies by
> > default (no search key set) are looking to match map, difficulty, mode,
> and
> > to some degree ping (theory).  Why? Because the design is to give the
> > players a choice on the game environment rather than viceversa, which is
> > what all of us Admins are accustom to.  This is my best reasoning for
> your
> > situation and quite possibly Valve may implement another cvar to allow
> -->
> > having and eating cake.  If you want your servers publically available,
> > then
> > do not use the search key, dont do a lobby, as the alternative is for ppl
> > that CAN see the server just join it directly.
> >
> > @cc2iscool
> >
> > I guess I would say that your issue is dictated by your choice on effort
> to
> > educate.  If you want your servers to be used only by your Community,
> then
> > you know how to do that.  If those ppl want to specifically join it by
> > Lobby, they'll have to take the time to find out.  Every client had to
> find
> > out how to use the damn server browser (with/without Custom tab) etc.
> >
> > At this point, us server admins need to have an idea of what the purpose
> is
> > for each of your DS'.  For myself, it's desired to only be used by our
> > Community as this greatly minimizes, if not completely irradicates
> players
> > that sabotage.  If you want a PUBLIC server, then ignore this
> configuration
> > offering.
> >
> > --
> > [FLASH] MjrNuT
> > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality
> >
> > www.flamesandash.com
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:37:02 +0100
> > > From: "Saint K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers
> > > To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'"
> > >        <[email protected]>
> > > Message-ID:
> > >        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > > Any reason why the server won't fill when the search key is set? From
> > what
> > > I
> > > understand its like a tag, but shouldn't block out others who are not
> > using
> > > the search key? After I set the search key, non of the 24 servers is
> > > getting
> > > player activity, other then community members.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Major Nut
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:29 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers
> > >
> > > I guess people have not figured this out yet, but we have our server
> > doing
> > > all those things you are "petitioning for.  Well, I have one exception
> to
> > > your list and that is: No. 4.  You just have to know how to use it.
>  The
> > > point of the key is basically a filter to tie the lobby leader to the
> > > desired DS, nothing more.  Our has been quite successful the entire
> last
> > > week:
> > >
> > > server.cfg has these elements and nothing extra aside from hostname,
> > rcon,
> > > log commands:
> > >
> > > set steam group
> > > no exclusive
> > > set search key value, w/ no quotes
> > > sv_allow_lobby connect cvar to 1
> > >
> > > client setting:
> > >
> > > anyone wanting to be the lobby leader for that DS needs to enter in the
> > > sv_search_key similarly.
> > >
> > > Here is a link to spell it out for those that feel this works just fine
> > as
> > > I'm not the only that has this working dandy:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.velocity-servers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5365&pid=18873&st
> > > =0&#entry18873<
> >
> http://www.velocity-servers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5365&pid=18873&st=0&#entry18873
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > [FLASH] MjrNuT
> > > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality
> > >
> > > www.flamesandash.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:46:47 -0600
> > > From: Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers
> > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> > >        <[email protected]>
> > > Message-ID:
> > >        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > Yes, you can use that, but the problem is...
> > >
> > > Most people are too lazy or don't care enough about the servers they
> join
> > > to
> > > bother opening up their console every time they start their game and
> > typing
> > > sv_search_key whatever every time they want to play a game. Sure, some
> > > community members that are big into your community might do so, but a
> lot
> > > of
> > > people don't even know how to open the console, let alone type that
> > > command.
> > > I've tried to educate my community on it, but it's not easy as people
> > just
> > > don't want to take the time to do it.
> > >
> > >
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