The matchmaking DOES NOT search for current map, difficulty and mode

The matchmaking changes them as it sees fit...

Regards, Phil

2008/12/2 Major Nut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> @SaintK
>  I believe this is a case of "you can't have your cake and eat it too"
>
> The search key by my interpretation of Valve is basically to tie a Lobby to
> a DS.  You are asking to have the search key ALSO by public.  Lobbies by
> default (no search key set) are looking to match map, difficulty, mode, and
> to some degree ping (theory).  Why? Because the design is to give the
> players a choice on the game environment rather than viceversa, which is
> what all of us Admins are accustom to.  This is my best reasoning for your
> situation and quite possibly Valve may implement another cvar to allow -->
> having and eating cake.  If you want your servers publically available,
> then
> do not use the search key, dont do a lobby, as the alternative is for ppl
> that CAN see the server just join it directly.
>
> @cc2iscool
>
> I guess I would say that your issue is dictated by your choice on effort to
> educate.  If you want your servers to be used only by your Community, then
> you know how to do that.  If those ppl want to specifically join it by
> Lobby, they'll have to take the time to find out.  Every client had to find
> out how to use the damn server browser (with/without Custom tab) etc.
>
> At this point, us server admins need to have an idea of what the purpose is
> for each of your DS'.  For myself, it's desired to only be used by our
> Community as this greatly minimizes, if not completely irradicates players
> that sabotage.  If you want a PUBLIC server, then ignore this configuration
> offering.
>
> --
> [FLASH] MjrNuT
> Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality
>
> www.flamesandash.com
>
> >
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:37:02 +0100
> > From: "Saint K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers
> > To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'"
> >        <[email protected]>
> > Message-ID:
> >        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Any reason why the server won't fill when the search key is set? From
> what
> > I
> > understand its like a tag, but shouldn't block out others who are not
> using
> > the search key? After I set the search key, non of the 24 servers is
> > getting
> > player activity, other then community members.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Major Nut
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:29 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers
> >
> > I guess people have not figured this out yet, but we have our server
> doing
> > all those things you are "petitioning for.  Well, I have one exception to
> > your list and that is: No. 4.  You just have to know how to use it.  The
> > point of the key is basically a filter to tie the lobby leader to the
> > desired DS, nothing more.  Our has been quite successful the entire last
> > week:
> >
> > server.cfg has these elements and nothing extra aside from hostname,
> rcon,
> > log commands:
> >
> > set steam group
> > no exclusive
> > set search key value, w/ no quotes
> > sv_allow_lobby connect cvar to 1
> >
> > client setting:
> >
> > anyone wanting to be the lobby leader for that DS needs to enter in the
> > sv_search_key similarly.
> >
> > Here is a link to spell it out for those that feel this works just fine
> as
> > I'm not the only that has this working dandy:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.velocity-servers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5365&pid=18873&st
> > =0&#entry18873<
> http://www.velocity-servers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5365&pid=18873&st=0&#entry18873
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > [FLASH] MjrNuT
> > Arise from Flames and Ash, Behold Immortality
> >
> > www.flamesandash.com
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:46:47 -0600
> > From: Cc2iscooL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Petition: Lobbies for Group Servers
> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> >        <[email protected]>
> > Message-ID:
> >        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Yes, you can use that, but the problem is...
> >
> > Most people are too lazy or don't care enough about the servers they join
> > to
> > bother opening up their console every time they start their game and
> typing
> > sv_search_key whatever every time they want to play a game. Sure, some
> > community members that are big into your community might do so, but a lot
> > of
> > people don't even know how to open the console, let alone type that
> > command.
> > I've tried to educate my community on it, but it's not easy as people
> just
> > don't want to take the time to do it.
> >
> >
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