I bet they dont even read this any more given all the threads like this.
Even after we were all asked very nicely to desist.

Can we please turn this into a moderated forum.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Blood Letter <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Yeah, let's bend over and take, while still supporting them
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:50:56 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve It's Time To Listen And Answer!
> >
> > Thank you..
> >
> > Really month after month it's the same complaints about Valve yet month
> > after month nothing changes.. We really don't need 15 people saying the
> same
> > thing over and over and over...
> >
> > I understand that this is a serious issue and it was brought up I just
> don't
> > see what complaining over and over about the same thing will do?
> >
> > I'm with you guys I'm just sick of the same emails just from a different
> > person day after day. I would like this list to get back to helping
> people
> > with the issues that was can address without valve...
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aaron Rapp
> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:51 PM
> > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve It's Time To Listen And Answer!
> >
> > Hi SakeFox,
> >
> > I don't think that this is the place to post this. Again, this mailing
> list
> > is for information exchanging between server admins. It would be best if
> you
> > posted about your concern on a Valve forum.
> >
> > In light of that fact that others will post on this subject here, and I
> > can't prevent that....I will say the following:
> >
> > Secondly, you should realize that it is just about every company's policy
> to
> > not admit fault. For a company the size of Valve, this is essential. It
> > keeps the amount of negative feedback from reviewers and writers alike,
> down
> > to a minimum...which gives the rest of us the illusion of "a good
> company".
> > Let me assure of this....they are listening. They take everything we say
> > here or elsewhere and it gets put into an excel spreadsheet. In their
> weekly
> > meetings, they discuss each item and prioritize it. Unfortunately, their
> > position on each item might be different from yours and yours may be
> > different from mine. One thing you learn very quickly, in this business,
> is
> > that you will never make everyone happy. You have to make the most of the
> > resources you have at the moment.
> >
> > That's all I can say on that. I hope you understand. It's hard to see the
> > entire other side of the river until you're actually standing over there.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Aaron Rapp
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SakeFox
> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:34 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: [hlds] Valve It's Time To Listen And Answer!
> >
> > I posted this in another thread, but it wouldn't be good to steal it or
> > really bring that thread down so i thought i would just make a new one.
> >
> > I don't know how many people will post in this or if it will go anywhere,
> > but it's time to make a post to tell valve how we feel. I used to defend
> and
> > help them, but now it's almost like what's the point.
> >
> > quoted from other post
> > "you guys haven't realized yet that valve has stopped caring about there
> > games? We have been waiting for over a month for a fix for tf2 hell
> > there are still some bugs from the beta that they still haven't fixed. I
> > used to monitor my little bug list in the forums, but patch after patch
> > maybe only 2-3 bugs would actually get fixed i started to realize valve
> > doesn't give a crap about how there games run and that became overly
> > noticed when they refuse to fix the map change error in TF2 and L4D.
> >
> > Valve will not reply to your issue nor do they care. they will not
> > reply to us about any other bug. just give up"
> >
> >
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