It's not that at all, at least not for me. Flagrant generalizations of the entire list? Hyperbole.
Bugs have severity. In the software development industry, you have "Minor" bugs (cosmetic, no functionality broken), Serious bugs (Limited functionality) and Show Stoppers (like the kind of bugs that wipe out an entire server's population). I've already stated that Valve are visionaries in this field. And I assure you - I have a life outside of this list :) We don't need to stop to think about Christmas when our servers are crapping out left and right because of Valve's lack of QA. This should have been caught and fixed long before the christmas season. And I disagree with you on us not being the boss of Valve. We pay for their products. Without us to support them, Valve is doomed. *WE ARE THEIR BOSSES* as it is OUR money that powers their company. As such, I don't feel they are entitled to any such "break" when a huge problem like this exists. If it were MY code at MY job dropping client connections like this, I would be under immense pressure to fix it. And I would be very wise to acknowledge this and move forward if I want to KEEP my job. But what do I know. I'm just some kid who's got a wife, 3 kids and a $4400 mortgage. It's not like *I* matter! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Eid Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:13 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve It's Time To Listen And Answer! If Valve doesn't do everything we say, they suck. If Valve doesn't fix everything now, they suck. If Valve doesn't kiss our asses every second of every day, they suck. They don't care, they won't fix this, they refuse to fix that. All they want is our money. You all sound like a broken record. And worse than that, you have no lives outside of this thing we have here. Did anyone stop to think that since they all busted their asses for who knows how long getting Left 4 Dead out the door, while providing updates to TF2 the whole time, that maybe...just maybe, they'd want to take a break for a little while during the holidays? You know...so they could spend time with their families. Honestly, since release of TOB, there have been a relentless amount of updates to their products. In the time that has passed from TOB until now, the only people being neglected were probably most of the families of Valve employees. Does anyone feel they deserve a little break? They're ignoring us? Really? You think so? Does anyone here subscribe to HLCoders? A little civility goes a long way. In my opinion, Valve isn't ignoring this list, they just don't want to reply. I swear, this list = SPUF sometimes. Any two words they say are held against them forever. I know that a lot of kids subscribe to this list, so it would be difficult for a lot of you to understand, but there is such a thing as priorities in life. Gaming is not as high on that list once you have a family to take care of and a boss to answer to. And you are not the boss of anyone at Valve. Valve knows about the problems, obviously. You all keep saying the same things over and over. Give them a break. Just because you didn't have anything to do for the past couple of weeks doesn't mean they had to sit around and hop on every little problem we have. What happens when updates are released to address the current existing issues? Are you going to apologize for acting like a bunch of assholes or are you going to feel stupid for saying things like, "Valve doesn't care about their games anymore"? Wait...I know. 90% of you will say, "Finally." 5% won't be happy no matter what. 4% will bring up another issue that Valve is ignoring. And 1% will say, "Thank you." Yes, we paid money for the game. But $50 does not give you the right to treat the people trying to help you like shit. Sometimes the problems that you claim are easy fixes may not be so easy to fix. And since most of you know for a fact that it's an easy fix, there's always [email protected] . Grow up. They are aware of the problems. Like Aaron said, there are your priorities and then there are business priorities. Just because the issues high on your list may not be high on theirs doesn't mean they're ignoring you. But then, it would be stupid of me to assume that most of you would understand any of that, especially given your attitudes over the past few months. -Richard Eid _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
