Ack, replying to my reply, it seems I went off on a different tnagent than what 
was asked.

You have a fairly *beefy server.  I would not make the disk subsystem the choke 
point for future growth.  I would also not go overboard with disks or expensive 
RAID sets.  I would recommend 10K SAS (146/300GB) in a simple RAID1.  I would 
start with some perf counters Disk Read, Disk Writes, Disk Queue, CPU and you 
can grow your server knowing the impact as you grow.  You can always add more 
disks later.  This is, of course, just my opinion and opinions will vary upon 
everyones current experince.

Any idea how many servers and expected clients/connections?  Or did I miss this 
in the thread?

X



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-----Original Message-----
From: xt...@shaw.ca

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:37 
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose


IMO, RAID1 would be sufficient especially with the IOPs current SAS/SCSI or 
even SATA drives provide.  If RAID5 is required for critical uptime then I 
would go as far as to suggest RAID6 just because of the shorter rebuild time 
and higher success rate for rebuilds as there are 2 parity stripes to build 
from.  There are fairly cheap SAS/SATA cards (Adaptec/3ware/Areca) as a 
solution but are the extra avalable writes required?  RAID10 is just too 
expensive a solution for an app that has small writes/reads.  RAID1, IMO, is 
sufficient...why not use VMware to copy/move a VM each night off a JBOD or 
RAID1 so, in a pinch, downtime could be reduced to minutes, depending on 
hardware failure point... Without the performance degradation of disk rebuilds.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Donnie Newlove <donnie.newl...@gmail.com>

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:10:44 
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose


Is there really any reason to use expensive setups when it comes to
storage? The harddrive is barley used at all except when the server
change level but the clients have to do that as well so it's not like
they have to wait for the server, the server will be finished in time
even with an average consumer drive, there is no reason it would not
be.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM, mdma <pmadma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone, this is my 1st post here, i usually sit back and just read 
> what's going on, scanning it for useful information.
> I need some help regarding hard drives. I'm going to be running a dedicated 
> server soon and want to know which you guys think are better for the job.
> The box will be running at first a couple of websites, small mysql databases, 
> and then of course mainly game servers.
> The websites and database etc will be moved from this box to another down the 
> line, and it will then only run game servers.
> My Box Specs are 1U
> 2 x Quad Core Xeons
> 8GB DDR2
> 250GB Seagate CUDA ES, 7200rpm 32mb cache, with NCQ hard drives.
>
> Should i be worried about the performance of these hard drives under load, 
> running multiple game servers etc, or should i upgrade them to Seagate 
> Cheetah 15k rpm SAS drives, or 10k rpm Raptors.
> I have been told by some that the 10k rpm Raptors perform quite well, but i 
> would like the opinions of you guys to help me decide on the upgrade path.
> I would hate to put all this time into setting everything up, only to have 
> the hard drives cause  me issues down the track.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Roy Jonas
>
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