Depends on the controller really. Some are as easy as putting in the new hdd and hitting a button, but they're expensive.
On 4/29/09, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote: > Right because restoring from RAID is a walk in the park. > > > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:00 -0500, Cc2iscooL wrote: >> But that's too much work for us lazy server admins. >> >> On 4/29/09, msleeper <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Yeah I have to agree, this whole RAID thing is a bit overkill. Your hard >> > drive dies? Pay your host the $20 to replace your drive and re-install. >> > It's a game server, it will take like 30 minutes. >> > >> > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 06:51 -0700, Robert Whelan wrote: >> >> Its a game server...lol 10K SAS 146GB would do you fine. Otherwise a WD >> >> Black >> >> >> >> I have 13 servers easily running off ours (Dual Xeon 5335 Quad Core >> >> Clovertown Processors) >> >> >> >> Create an Image, you can always upgrade if needed... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >> To: [email protected]; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:01:25 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose >> >> >> >> Ack, replying to my reply, it seems I went off on a different tnagent >> >> than >> >> what was asked. >> >> >> >> You have a fairly *beefy server. I would not make the disk subsystem >> >> the >> >> choke point for future growth. I would also not go overboard with >> >> disks >> >> or expensive RAID sets. I would recommend 10K SAS (146/300GB) in a >> >> simple >> >> RAID1. I would start with some perf counters Disk Read, Disk Writes, >> >> Disk >> >> Queue, CPU and you can grow your server knowing the impact as you grow. >> >> You can always add more disks later. This is, of course, just my >> >> opinion >> >> and opinions will vary upon everyones current experince. >> >> >> >> Any idea how many servers and expected clients/connections? Or did I >> >> miss >> >> this in the thread? >> >> >> >> X >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:37 >> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing >> >> list<[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose >> >> >> >> >> >> IMO, RAID1 would be sufficient especially with the IOPs current >> >> SAS/SCSI >> >> or even SATA drives provide. If RAID5 is required for critical uptime >> >> then I would go as far as to suggest RAID6 just because of the shorter >> >> rebuild time and higher success rate for rebuilds as there are 2 parity >> >> stripes to build from. There are fairly cheap SAS/SATA cards >> >> (Adaptec/3ware/Areca) as a solution but are the extra avalable writes >> >> required? RAID10 is just too expensive a solution for an app that has >> >> small writes/reads. RAID1, IMO, is sufficient...why not use VMware to >> >> copy/move a VM each night off a JBOD or RAID1 so, in a pinch, downtime >> >> could be reduced to minutes, depending on hardware failure point... >> >> Without the performance degradation of disk rebuilds. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Donnie Newlove <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:10:44 >> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing >> >> list<[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose >> >> >> >> >> >> Is there really any reason to use expensive setups when it comes to >> >> storage? The harddrive is barley used at all except when the server >> >> change level but the clients have to do that as well so it's not like >> >> they have to wait for the server, the server will be finished in time >> >> even with an average consumer drive, there is no reason it would not >> >> be. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM, mdma <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hi everyone, this is my 1st post here, i usually sit back and just >> >> > read >> >> > what's going on, scanning it for useful information. >> >> > I need some help regarding hard drives. I'm going to be running a >> >> > dedicated server soon and want to know which you guys think are >> >> > better >> >> > for the job. >> >> > The box will be running at first a couple of websites, small mysql >> >> > databases, and then of course mainly game servers. >> >> > The websites and database etc will be moved from this box to another >> >> > down the line, and it will then only run game servers. >> >> > My Box Specs are 1U >> >> > 2 x Quad Core Xeons >> >> > 8GB DDR2 >> >> > 250GB Seagate CUDA ES, 7200rpm 32mb cache, with NCQ hard drives. >> >> > >> >> > Should i be worried about the performance of these hard drives under >> >> > load, running multiple game servers etc, or should i upgrade them to >> >> > Seagate Cheetah 15k rpm SAS drives, or 10k rpm Raptors. >> >> > I have been told by some that the 10k rpm Raptors perform quite well, >> >> > but i would like the opinions of you guys to help me decide on the >> >> > upgrade path. >> >> > I would hate to put all this time into setting everything up, only to >> >> > have the hard drives cause me issues down the track. >> >> > >> >> > Many Thanks >> >> > >> >> > Roy Jonas >> >> > >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> > archives, >> >> > please visit: >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- Sent from my mobile device _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
