Lets not get dumb bout this, everybody knows there are LOADS of pubs out there, 
which are 32 player, and they are full. Being able to have a 33rd slot on them 
allows for a bunch of stuff, like "soft" reserved slots (ie: not kicking 
players), having an admin in spectator with even teams etc. 

If the ppl with 24 slots servers could not get a 25th (and we all know they 
often use 26 or 27) slot for same purposes, all hell would break loose, so give 
those with 32 slot server some slack.

That valve didn't INTEND it to be 32 player, is something entirely else then 
players WANTING it. I've seen Lazytown servers, where a round lasts 5+ hours, 
32 player, and ppl stay on for hours just to try to win, or spam, or just 
slaughter. If they find that fun, why not.


>________________________________
>From: Ronny Schedel <[email protected]>
>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2011, 9:19
>Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
>
>TF2 is a 24 player game, so no problem to get even teams.
>
>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Kyle Sanderson
>Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:46 AM
>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
>
>Course not. This just removes the functionality to have even teams
>with an admin in spectator watching over the server (You now need a
>plugin to do this semi-successfully).
>
>It's always nice to not use trickery.
>Kyle.
>
>On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:41 PM, J M <[email protected]> wrote:
>> No longer being able to run with 33 players is a FIX. Did you really think
>> they intended that?
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Kyle Sanderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg63030.html
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Jesse Porter <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Until he can use his words, it doesn't matter.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Timothy Sadleir <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Yeah, I'm unsure as to what he's talking about as well.  Is he trying
>>> >> to
>>> >> say that Replay and SourceTV don't work anymore after this update?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:10 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Any chance you can enlighten the rest of us, or is this a private
>>> >>> snark
>>> >>> between you and Valve?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:hlds-
>>> >>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
>>> >>> > Sent: 04 August 2011 02:18
>>> >>> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life
>>> >>> > dedicated
>>> >>> > Win32 server mailing list
>>> >>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > > Source Engine Changes (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2, HL2:DM)
>>> >>> > > - Added a check to prevent kicking Replay and SourceTV clients
>>> >>> > > from
>>> >>> > servers
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Thanks for breaking this in every game. I was starting to get
>>> >>> > worried
>>> >>> > that we weren't going to have any regressions for this week.
>>> >>> > Kyle.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Jason Ruymen
>>> >>> > <[email protected]>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>> > > Required updates for Team Fortress 2 are now available.  The
>>> >>> > > specific
>>> >>> > changes include:
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Source Engine Changes (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2, HL2:DM)
>>> >>> > > - Added a check to prevent kicking Replay and SourceTV clients
>>> >>> > > from
>>> >>> > servers
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Team Fortress 2
>>> >>> > > - Added new items for upcoming promotions
>>> >>> > > - Fixed a case where health overheal wasn't being applied when
>>> >>> > multiple healers were involved
>>> >>> > > - Fixed the new Gravelpit backgrounds using the wrong filename
>>> >>> > > - Updated the Mask of the Shaman
>>> >>> > > - Updated the localization files
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Jason
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > >
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