Also I appologize Russel, just a little upset today. Work, servers, and mailing 
list getting to me.
On Aug 10, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote:

> Maybe I redirected my spat at the wrong person Russell, but as you can tell, 
> I am slowly getting attacked because I use an ad to keep my servers up.
> 
> The reason I made my servers was because of lotus which I have repeated way 
> too many times already, but I did it is because the donator system at lotus 
> gave donators a semi-admin powers which is why I also went more and more to 
> ads instead of donators. Pretty much any donator if they wanted a friend in 
> the server immediately started a vote to kick a player. They also muted 
> people simply because the person was young. So when asked "can I buy admin" 
> for my servers I have repeatedly stated "No" because I know it will lead to 
> abuse, which I don't want.
> 
> 
> On 2012-08-10 16:54, DontWannaName! wrote:
>> Oh that's sweet Russel :)
>> 
>> I didn't either. The more you get caught in the more you end up like
>> just another McDonalds. Iv seen a lot since I started running servers
>> 6 years ago, these types of ads are new and are being abused.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 4
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Russell Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry, I didn't mean to seem like I was attacking you.  I am just curious 
>>> what would bring you to the decision of setting up ads in the motd.  Is 
>>> your goal to try and grow your community to the size of Lotus?
>>> 
>>> Before I set up my servers I played on DWN's servers and modeled mine after 
>>> his.  I didn't even know ads in the motd were a thing until this thread.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10.08.2012 16:38, Cameron Munroe wrote:
>>>> Im going off on your topic since you seem to be attacking me. Lets
>>>> talk about donations then. I used to play on lotusclan which had heavy
>>>> amounts of donators. These donators were pretty much given semi admin
>>>> rights on the servers where they could do what ever the hell they
>>>> wanted and no one could do anything about it. I left and built my own
>>>> servers because of lotusclan and the fact that donators were harming
>>>> players that were fun, and enjoyable to have on the server.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A successful [Owner]: provide an enviorment where any player, can
>>>> join and have fun without fearing segregation because of age, race,
>>>> location, or ethnicity.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/10/2012 4:33 PM, Russell Smith wrote:
>>>>> How do you define being a successful admin?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10.08.2012 16:31, Cameron Munroe wrote:
>>>>>> Actually I don't. The way I have come to slowly realize is that
>>>>>> people weren't going to donate in my bracket of players. i.e. the Free
>>>>>> to Play Generation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For me to be successful I need servers with MOTDs.
>>> 
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