... then they wait the minute and half and spam it again. LOL or they go and 
votekick them, player comes back. OHHH MY GOD HES BACK thats a violation ban 
him.....[repeat]
On Aug 11, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Todd Pettit wrote:

> You can set a cooldown period.
> My votes are not allowed again for 90 seconds.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cameron Munroe" <[email protected]>
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 8:24:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Delisting, does it need some changes?
> 
> 
> My problem is that they can just spam it until they are done. Most servers 
> use a process where x number of people have to vote and then they are 
> prompted. In other words they just keep spamming the voteban until it is 
> successful. 
> 
> 
> On Aug 11, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Brian Simon wrote: 
> 
> 
> People being able to vote obviously means they are all "semi-admins," 
> following your logic. And with the built-in TF2 voting system, that makes 
> every single player on Valve servers "semi-admins" because anyone can start a 
> vote, right? 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Cameron Munroe < [email protected] > 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> Maybe I redirected my spat at the wrong person Russell, but as you can tell, 
> I am slowly getting attacked because I use an ad to keep my servers up. 
> 
> The reason I made my servers was because of lotus which I have repeated way 
> too many times already, but I did it is because the donator system at lotus 
> gave donators a semi-admin powers which is why I also went more and more to 
> ads instead of donators. Pretty much any donator if they wanted a friend in 
> the server immediately started a vote to kick a player. They also muted 
> people simply because the person was young. So when asked "can I buy admin" 
> for my servers I have repeatedly stated "No" because I know it will lead to 
> abuse, which I don't want. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2012-08-10 16:54, DontWannaName! wrote: 
> 
> 
> Oh that's sweet Russel :) 
> 
> I didn't either. The more you get caught in the more you end up like 
> just another McDonalds. Iv seen a lot since I started running servers 
> 6 years ago, these types of ads are new and are being abused. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Russell Smith < [email protected] > 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry, I didn't mean to seem like I was attacking you. I am just curious what 
> would bring you to the decision of setting up ads in the motd. Is your goal 
> to try and grow your community to the size of Lotus? 
> 
> Before I set up my servers I played on DWN's servers and modeled mine after 
> his. I didn't even know ads in the motd were a thing until this thread. 
> 
> 
> On 10.08.2012 16:38, Cameron Munroe wrote: 
> 
> 
> Im going off on your topic since you seem to be attacking me. Lets 
> talk about donations then. I used to play on lotusclan which had heavy 
> amounts of donators. These donators were pretty much given semi admin 
> rights on the servers where they could do what ever the hell they 
> wanted and no one could do anything about it. I left and built my own 
> servers because of lotusclan and the fact that donators were harming 
> players that were fun, and enjoyable to have on the server. 
> 
> 
> A successful [Owner]: provide an enviorment where any player, can 
> join and have fun without fearing segregation because of age, race, 
> location, or ethnicity. 
> 
> 
> On 8/10/2012 4:33 PM, Russell Smith wrote: 
> 
> 
> How do you define being a successful admin? 
> 
> On 10.08.2012 16:31, Cameron Munroe wrote: 
> 
> 
> Actually I don't. The way I have come to slowly realize is that 
> people weren't going to donate in my bracket of players. i.e. the Free 
> to Play Generation. 
> 
> For me to be successful I need servers with MOTDs. 
> 
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