People being able to vote obviously means they are all "semi-admins,"
following your logic. And with the built-in TF2 voting system, that makes
every single player on Valve servers "semi-admins" because anyone can start
a vote, right?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Cameron Munroe
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Maybe I redirected my spat at the wrong person Russell, but as you can
> tell, I am slowly getting attacked because I use an ad to keep my servers
> up.
>
> The reason I made my servers was because of lotus which I have repeated
> way too many times already, but I did it is because the donator system at
> lotus gave donators a semi-admin powers which is why I also went more and
> more to ads instead of donators. Pretty much any donator if they wanted a
> friend in the server immediately started a vote to kick a player. They also
> muted people simply because the person was young. So when asked "can I buy
> admin" for my servers I have repeatedly stated "No" because I know it will
> lead to abuse, which I don't want.
>
>
>
> On 2012-08-10 16:54, DontWannaName! wrote:
>
>> Oh that's sweet Russel :)
>>
>> I didn't either. The more you get caught in the more you end up like
>> just another McDonalds. Iv seen a lot since I started running servers
>> 6 years ago, these types of ads are new and are being abused.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 4
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Russell Smith <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Sorry, I didn't mean to seem like I was attacking you.  I am just
>>> curious what would bring you to the decision of setting up ads in the motd.
>>>  Is your goal to try and grow your community to the size of Lotus?
>>>
>>> Before I set up my servers I played on DWN's servers and modeled mine
>>> after his.  I didn't even know ads in the motd were a thing until this
>>> thread.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10.08.2012 16:38, Cameron Munroe wrote:
>>>
>>>> Im going off on your topic since you seem to be attacking me. Lets
>>>> talk about donations then. I used to play on lotusclan which had heavy
>>>> amounts of donators. These donators were pretty much given semi admin
>>>> rights on the servers where they could do what ever the hell they
>>>> wanted and no one could do anything about it. I left and built my own
>>>> servers because of lotusclan and the fact that donators were harming
>>>> players that were fun, and enjoyable to have on the server.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A successful [Owner]: provide an enviorment where any player, can
>>>> join and have fun without fearing segregation because of age, race,
>>>> location, or ethnicity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/10/2012 4:33 PM, Russell Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How do you define being a successful admin?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10.08.2012 16:31, Cameron Munroe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually I don't. The way I have come to slowly realize is that
>>>>>> people weren't going to donate in my bracket of players. i.e. the Free
>>>>>> to Play Generation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me to be successful I need servers with MOTDs.
>>>>>>
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