Agreed. I apologize. I was accused of merely complaining.
I just want a reasonable explanation how the last 2 major updates were both rolled out so late it the week and without any detectable signs of having been tested first. I don't think it is unreasonable for valve to explain why they do not apparently respect us admins. I cannot see why there is any reason this cannot be rolled out on Monday or Tuesday allowing more time for corrections more importantly why valve doesn't respect the community enough to load up sourcemod with a few plugins and alert the community that 90 percent of all community servers will be adversely affected. I don't expect them to support sourcemod but in the case of Pyromania we had to wait for an additional day for gamedata updates. More importantly, in this update they didn't even test it on their own servers. I just think Valve has some accountability to answer for when they don't even test updates for their own servers much less the thousands of community servers. I am not just complaining either. I expect an answer and I suspect I am not alone. There are 300 emails here because of massive failure on valves part not because of bickering. I won't bring it up again until a reasonable amount of time has passed but it is worth pressing since mistakes are being constantly repeated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Edwards" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:42:58 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not? Please, if you wish to have these bickering matches do it in private emails between each other. It is not helpful at the best of times. and recently the signal to noise ratio on this list is way out of whack. > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 03:31:40 -0400 (EDT) > From: Todd Pettit <[email protected]> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not? > Message-ID: <27899671.667.1345275098785.JavaMail.Pro@Pro-PC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > No, I do not have insider information of valve but I am not an idiot, like > some people. > > The updated affected every single server you imbecile. If they had > conducted any testing at all it would of been immediately apparent. > I don't need inside information when common sense is abundantly adequate, > although to someone like you without any I could see this is presents a > significant challenge. > > I asked 2 extremely valid questions of valve in light of the last 2 > disastrous major rollouts. > 1. Why don't you test your updates before rolling them out? > 2. Why don't you please do rollouts earlier in the week? > > Apparently you don't care at all for your community to ask these glaringly > obvious kinds of questions. > > You didn't get 300 emails because of people complaining. You got 300 > emails because Valve did not do either of those 2 things. > > I also didn't say I have ever complained to get food or drinks comped for > myself. > I said people who do speak up are the ones who get attention because you > said the cliche "The squeaky wheel gets the grease" is untrue. > It is a damn cliche because it is universally true. > > I am sure if we held it to a vote every admin with a thriving community > reading this may actually want a damn answer to: > > 1. Valve, why don't you test your updates before rolling them out? > 2. Valve, why don't you please do rollouts earlier in the week? > > You are the one who side tracked the entire conversation with your obtuse > observations and you are the reason Valve does not address basic Quality > Assurance measures. > > Oh and congratulations!!! I am sure you have had a rip roaring career at > Kenny Shoes. > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
