.......Yawn!
-----Original Message-----
From: Formologic23
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:02 AM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not?
"Valve didn't take the time to boot up a single server and test their
changes and instead decided to rollout a completely non-functional update to
close to 5000 severs."
Statements like this just make you look ridiculous. Do you work at Valve?
I'm sure you have insider information to back this statement up.
Round 2 - "It should be the bare minimum standard and it is blatantly
obvious is was not met."
Then why haven't I had any problems with my servers? Again, complaining in
an unproductive manner.
Say what you will. I've worked in two retail environments as a Retail
Operations Manager and was quite successful. I know what it takes, and I
know how to treat my customers. The people like you who are never happy and
always complain get ignored in the long run. Sure, you feel good about
getting your bill reduced, or things "given" to you free of charge. It's a
short term solution and once a company feels like they've got you silenced,
they go back to their ways. A few people complaining on a mailing list
definitely get ignored who bring nothing to the table. Why do you think you
feel this happens over and over to you and your community?
Anyways, we're going to be spinning our wheels poking at each other. I've
got 300 emails in my box since the new update came out and my point with all
this was there are so many threads that are NOT productive. The people who
are "complaining" but bringing some productive comments are much farther
ahead. That's all I'm asking at least. My replies aren't helping either
since I'm not bring solutions. Consider this my last unproductive post.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Pettit
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:53 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not?
"Things break due to possibly billions of different configurations of
hardware, software and you can't expect software programmers to be perfect."
The crap that happened for the last 2 days had not a thing to do with
hardware. Neither have any of the issues with pyromania.
Valve didn't take the time to boot up a single server and test their changes
and instead decided to rollout a completely non-functional update to close
to 5000 severs.
I don't expect them to predict every little issue but a bare minimum would
to be launch a few test servers in a lab environment with a few different
configurations and see what happens.
It should be the bare minimum standard and it is blatantly obvious is was
not met.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Formologic23" <[email protected]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:13:24 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not?
No offense, but if many of you are so by a company's "product", why do you
keep using it? If you're not happy with the way in which said company does
business or their practices their business, then don't use their services or
product. It's that simple. If you make money off of your community marketing
such an allegedly crappy product, then you should look at other business
alternatives. It's that simple. Things break due to possibly billions of
different configurations of hardware, software and you can't expect software
programmers to be perfect.
This is my opinion. If I get what I feel is crappy service (a restaurant for
example), I don't return. Ok, maybe it was a bad day. I give it another
shot. If I have to complain about the same things, they don't get my
business. If I buy a product and it sucks, I stop buying that product. Also,
I've stopped selling products that cause me grief as well. This is such a
simple concept, but many of you come from the generation of "you owe it to
me".
Stop filling the boards up with nonsense. I'm tired of filtering through the
complaints to find solutions. Either produce productive statements or don't
say anything at all. The squeaky wheel does not get the grease, it gets
ignored and set aside.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Pettit
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 7:56 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not?
Ok, well obviously though that was too late since Friday night here we are
on the third update and I am having to explain to my community that Valve
doesn't believe in testing first.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kush Mahajani" <[email protected]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45:18 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not?
Pyromania and MvM both came out on Wednesday.
On Aug 17, 2012, at 19:39, Todd Pettit <[email protected]> wrote:
Can I ask why Valve insists on doing major updates on Thursday and
Friday
nights instead of on a Monday or Tuesday?
I mean if I rolled out updates leading into the busiest days in my
workplace I would be fired on the spot.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fletcher Dunn" <[email protected]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list"
<[email protected]>, "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
mailing list ([email protected])"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:43:41 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not?
Update coming in the next 30 minutes or so.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of doc
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:40 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Full servers, but not?
I feel like a shit for laughing at this one, haha.
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Essay Tew Phaun <[email protected]>
wrote:
Since so many communities abuse fake clients/counts Valve felt it was
best to allow all communities to do it ;)
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