This pinion thing first visited the list a month
or two back and I wrote a response to the list
voicing my two cents. However I did this from my
phone and it got bounced back for because of the
previous posts not being cropped down. In short
it essentially said "Shame on Valve for even
entertaining something like pinion" pertaining to any in game advertising.
Valve is selling hats, drop items, etc etc etc...
The game is still generating money. To play the
game we see advertising when we log in to steam.
I don't want to see ads when playing games for
Viagra, Uncle Bucks Beer, and Lysol. Everyone
knows Uncle Buck is in the Klan. If Valve wants
to pursue money in advertising, then replace the
cereal boxes in L4D with Honeycomb and Fruit Loop
boxes. Make the soda cans in the games that are
lying around Pepsi cans and profit that way.
You're welcome for the idea... (% my way).
MAKE MOVIES...
If other community owners want to show ads on
their MOTD, have at it. Whether it is through
pinion, or by bypassing pinion and seeking ads
through other means and cutting out the "middle
man", ie; pinon. Live and let live.
However, my fear is about the day Valve "forces"
the servers I run to show ads or do anything
through the in game browser I am unaware of for
that matter, of such nature. They are ran on my
hardware, at my expense, running essentially an
"open source" game server file(s). Or at least
that's how it started out. So if this changes, I
would expect to see a full disclosure on the
matter, and expect to have to click something
saying I approve of the conditions before
downloading the new server files to my server
prior to implementation. Warranting today's
society, a class action suit undoubtedly would
pop up and surely Valve is clever enough to think
of such matters, thus dropping such a concept of pinion rather quickly.
Now through my own absurdity I hope it makes
Valve see it's own... If any of this pinion crap is true.
I am reasonable... I would expect 50,000% profit
for my share of monies generated. That is fifty
thousand percent, not 50 percent. I am reasonable
after all... Should the day come that I
entertained a partnership with Valve as an
advertising agency. This would cover any future
potential and probably legal expenses expected to
incur. And that's what would occur... My hardware
would them become a venue of advertising the game
more so than I already do, not to mention the
involvement of a third party(s) and their
products. I would also expect a seat on the
"board" to approve and review any such ads
conveyed though my medium. And the typical 20%
from any advertisers I obtain and bring to the table that are interested.
Should Valve "force" me to advertise through the
current concept of the "MOTD Browser" in game for
any of the game servers I host, I will probably
not host them any longer. In fact, I am sure I
would no longer host them in protest. The same if
Valve will not show my servers in the game
browser or include me in matchmaking pools simply
because I chose not to promote advertising
unknown products through such medium. That is not
a way to treat the folks that assisted in making
your games a success for you. WE THE PEOPLE ran
the majority of the servers promoting your games at our own cost.
Game console, Steam, PC computing... At what
point does the "want to take over the world"
settle back down to reason? Is ValveOS next (®) ?
Make Half Life 3... Left4Dead 3 (bigger maps and
6/6 or 8/8 for versus please), or even make a
TF3... Make money that way Valve... You look like
beggars and extortionist when you team up with
such things as an advertising plugin if that is
what you have done. Have some dignity.
Now mind you, whoever designed and thought of
this pinion gig, more power too you...
Brilliant... I wished I had thought of it. But
Valve having any official involvement with it...
Just doesn't sit right with me or anyone else I have discussed it with.
Now if you think my post is ridiculous, imagine
how YOU look Valve entertaining ANY involvement with such.
NO TO FORCED IN GAME ADVERTISING if it is being entertained...
But that's just my two cents...
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