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Doctor McKay http://www.doctormckay.com [email protected] On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:49 AM, big john <[email protected]> wrote: > What the hell is this random mumbo jumbo. It was clear in the first 2 > sentences the you have no idea what you are talking about. > On Jun 3, 2013 11:47 AM, "proto mon" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Holy Jesus Please disable these ads >> They are getting so god damn annoying, And the audio ads are even worst. >> They keep playing somehow even if you switch the server. You literally have >> to quit the game to stop the ads. >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 2:42 AM, G. Hutchinson >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> This pinion thing first visited the list a month or two back and I >>> wrote a response to the list voicing my two cents. However I did this from >>> my phone and it got bounced back for because of the previous posts not >>> being cropped down. In short it essentially said "Shame on Valve for even >>> entertaining something like pinion" pertaining to any in game advertising. >>> >>> Valve is selling hats, drop items, etc etc etc... The game is still >>> generating money. To play the game we see advertising when we log in to >>> steam. I don't want to see ads when playing games for Viagra, Uncle Bucks >>> Beer, and Lysol. Everyone knows Uncle Buck is in the Klan. If Valve wants >>> to pursue money in advertising, then replace the cereal boxes in L4D with >>> Honeycomb and Fruit Loop boxes. Make the soda cans in the games that are >>> lying around Pepsi cans and profit that way. You're welcome for the idea... >>> (% my way). >>> >>> MAKE MOVIES... >>> >>> If other community owners want to show ads on their MOTD, have at it. >>> Whether it is through pinion, or by bypassing pinion and seeking ads >>> through other means and cutting out the "middle man", ie; pinon. Live and >>> let live. >>> >>> However, my fear is about the day Valve "forces" the servers I run to >>> show ads or do anything through the in game browser I am unaware of for >>> that matter, of such nature. They are ran on my hardware, at my expense, >>> running essentially an "open source" game server file(s). Or at least >>> that's how it started out. So if this changes, I would expect to see a full >>> disclosure on the matter, and expect to have to click something saying I >>> approve of the conditions before downloading the new server files to my >>> server prior to implementation. Warranting today's society, a class action >>> suit undoubtedly would pop up and surely Valve is clever enough to think of >>> such matters, thus dropping such a concept of pinion rather quickly. >>> >>> Now through my own absurdity I hope it makes Valve see it's own... If >>> any of this pinion crap is true. >>> >>> I am reasonable... I would expect 50,000% profit for my share of monies >>> generated. That is fifty thousand percent, not 50 percent. I am reasonable >>> after all... Should the day come that I entertained a partnership with >>> Valve as an advertising agency. This would cover any future potential and >>> probably legal expenses expected to incur. And that's what would occur... >>> My hardware would them become a venue of advertising the game more so than >>> I already do, not to mention the involvement of a third party(s) and their >>> products. I would also expect a seat on the "board" to approve and review >>> any such ads conveyed though my medium. And the typical 20% from any >>> advertisers I obtain and bring to the table that are interested. >>> >>> Should Valve "force" me to advertise through the current concept of the >>> "MOTD Browser" in game for any of the game servers I host, I will probably >>> not host them any longer. In fact, I am sure I would no longer host them in >>> protest. The same if Valve will not show my servers in the game browser or >>> include me in matchmaking pools simply because I chose not to promote >>> advertising unknown products through such medium. That is not a way to >>> treat the folks that assisted in making your games a success for you. WE >>> THE PEOPLE ran the majority of the servers promoting your games at our own >>> cost. >>> >>> Game console, Steam, PC computing... At what point does the "want to >>> take over the world" settle back down to reason? Is ValveOS next (®) ? >>> >>> Make Half Life 3... Left4Dead 3 (bigger maps and 6/6 or 8/8 for versus >>> please), or even make a TF3... Make money that way Valve... You look like >>> beggars and extortionist when you team up with such things as an >>> advertising plugin if that is what you have done. Have some dignity. >>> >>> Now mind you, whoever designed and thought of this pinion gig, more >>> power too you... Brilliant... I wished I had thought of it. But Valve >>> having any official involvement with it... Just doesn't sit right with me >>> or anyone else I have discussed it with. >>> >>> Now if you think my post is ridiculous, imagine how YOU look Valve >>> entertaining ANY involvement with such. >>> >>> NO TO FORCED IN GAME ADVERTISING *if it is being entertained... >>> * >>> But that's just my two cents... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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