Or they could just do like some servers are already doing and throw obnoxious ads in clients faces.
Having said that, Valve already runs their own TF2 servers and I doubt they're anywhere near full at the moment. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Eli Witt <[email protected]> wrote: > "Let's not bite the hand that feeds us" > > We're the one providing Valve's player base with a place to play. Without > us, they would have to foot the bill for every server that's required to > handle all the various games players, which as we've seen a-la other > companies retiring games and shutting down the servers, is expensive. Tens > of thousands of dollars a month in bandwidth, electricity and colo or > managed rental overhead that we're completely negating for them. > > We're the ones giving Valve free money by having a wealth of servers for > their players to play on so they stay entertained and buy more virtual > pixel hats to wear. > > Valve is one of the most involved developers because it benefits their > bottom line. They're a company out to make dollars in business, do not > forget that for one second. > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:09 PM, escapedturkey < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Valve is one of the most involved developers there is. We should be >> thankful they care as much as they do about the PC gaming community. >> Let's not bite the hand that feeds us. >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:39 AM, ics <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Plenty of others from Valve also read this list. I'm sure they saw the >> > message. >> > >> > I also do know they prioritize things. Sometimes it takes about 2 >> months, >> > sometimes week, sometimes it's end of the pile and nothing happens. >> It's all >> > about how urgent something is or how urgent they see it. I speak from >> past >> > experiences and most are positive with dealing them. >> > >> > -ics >> > >> > Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: >> >> >> >> Fletcher Dunn and Alfred Reynolds from Valve both participate on this >> >> mailing list all the time, so I'm not sure why you think no one from >> Valve >> >> does. >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Brian Simon <[email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> You must think Valve cares about server operators breaking the >> >> rules they set forth or something. Valve has more important things >> >> to do such as making new hats and promo items. >> >> >> >> Here's an idea to contact Valve since they do not seem to read the >> >> mailing list: File a bug on their github ( >> >> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues ) making >> >> your accusations there. Someone from Valve is sure to see it! >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:02 AM, ics <[email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> What Bjorn said is my main concern. I didn't name any >> >> communities since i also think attacking a single community >> >> does not remove the problem. >> >> >> >> However, i am deeply furstrated in the matter due to the fact >> >> that these communities get the traffic that is off from >> >> legitimate servers. I know for a fact that my servers could be >> >> full sooner than they are now but the 3 communities next door >> >> are cheating off the traffic. >> >> >> >> -ics >> >> >> >> Bjorn Wielens kirjoitti: >> >> >> >> One of my observations is that people are probably getting >> >> frustrated with the lack of attention or comments on the >> >> matter. I'm sure valve knows about the issue, but not a >> >> lot seems to be done. I have admins on my staff that are >> >> getting extremely frustrated because they go to Quickplay, >> >> and end up in a string of servers that abuse the system >> >> (which they F7) and the folks running "proper" servers get >> >> the short end of the stick because it feels like these >> >> unscrupulous individuals are "stealing" traffic from the >> >> legitimate operators. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Jason Tango <[email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >> >> *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> >> <[email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >> >> *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2013 8:43:50 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Fake Client Fool >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If people want to spend their time as the "quickplay >> >> police force", that's fine by me - but I believe Valve has >> >> said on numerous occasions that this mailing list is not >> >> the place to "name and shame" other server operators. >> >> There are proper venues for reporting perceived >> >> violations, and this list isn't one o f them. >> >> >> >> Do I think people who aren't setting the proper tags >> >> should be dropped from quickplay? Absolutely.....but >> >> pointing fingers in a public forum just leads to the more >> >> nefarious readers of this list into doing things (like >> >> attacking the servers/community in question) against >> >> operators that may or may not be doing anything wrong. >> >> It's easy to accuse people (and equally easy to falsify >> >> "evidence") - but the only people here whose >> >> responsibility to dole out punishment should be the Valve >> >> team. >> >> >> >> So - how about we have enough respect for each other to >> >> use the proper channels for these reports, as opposed to >> >> starting virtual witch hunts. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >> >> list archives, please visit: >> >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >> >> list archives, please visit: >> >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> archives, please visit: >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> archives, please visit: >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Ross Bemrose >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> -- >> EscapedTurkey.com Billing and Support >> https://www.escapedturkey.com/helpdesk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- Ross Bemrose
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