It used to be very large, but after they kept messing with the game's
optimization / balance it kept pushing players away. The fact that
Valve's quickplay servers are so awful (No moderation, communication,
hacker play-ground and a low skill ceiling) has stopped a lot of new
players from coming in, they simply don't learn the full extent of the
game or get so frustrated they leave before they get a good chance.
Valve has made little to no effort in actually teaching anyone how to
play TF2, at least pre-quickplay you could eventually find a friendly
community to learn with, but that's not the same anymore. Oh also taunts!
I also want a TF2 on Source 2, I feel if they want TF2 to live that is
the only logical next step. I understand that a game of this size has
the problems it does because the code is so messy and buggy that it has
to be hard to work with. They can't do any updates anymore without
breaking something else in the process. But if you want a competitive
scene to happen, you need to make the game run decently.
Lately (as of the tough break update) the biggest complaint I hear on my
servers are complaints of FPS problems, stuttering, and other
optimization issues. It's one thing if your computer is a decade old but
a lot of these people and myself have very powerful rigs.
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 6:33 PM, ED-E <ed-e_fo...@wobre.com
<mailto:ed-e_fo...@wobre.com>> wrote:
Isn't the TF2 competive scene relativly small? Are there really a
lot of people prefer playing and training competivie for TF2 as
opposed to other games like CS:Go for example? Propably a lot of
competitive players will wait and jump onto Overwatch as opposed
back into TF2. I still think the competitive thing should put into a
Source 2 Re-Release of TF2 as opposed a single line mentioned in an
update below some new weapons skins and hats.
Even though I heard there are no plans for it, I still like to see a
TF2 reloaded with the Source 2 engine. Especially since next year
its TF2 10 year anniversary. Revisiting and modernising some of the
gamemodes, let the community remake some of the popular maps, it
wouldn't hurt if cp_warpath gets a comesback too ;) I also would
love to see a "100 vs 10 Mann vs. Machine" mode for a TF: Source 2.
But I guess next year even Valve will propably forget about it or
everyone gets a free secret saxton or something.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rowedahelicon <theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com
<mailto:theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com>>
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com <mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 17:44:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released
> I guess Source 2 is a good point, see where it goes and what-not.
As for
> TF2, I feel TF2 is still somewhat profitable but it can be a lot more
> profitable if they treated it better than it is. I'm sure
competitive mode
> will give a little bit of life back into it but I have a list of
concerns
> that I know will fall on deaf ears anyway.
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:41 PM, ED-E <ed-e_fo...@wobre.com
<mailto:ed-e_fo...@wobre.com>> wrote:
>
> > I guess we all can agree on that Valve doesn't need the games
to stay
> > afloat, even the ones they still support.
> >
> > I hate how community servers get treaded in TF2, but I still
admire that
> > someone at Valve (Eric or whoever is in charge) still raises
the hand to do
> > something with it after all the years. I don't know how
profitable TF2
> > still is comperable to CS:GO or Dota2 though, but again, I
doubt it's
> > business critical to Valve.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rowedahelicon <theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com
<mailto:theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com>>
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
> > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com <mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>>
> > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 17:33:47 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released
> >
> > > My question is when is it time to declare Valve one of
"Those" companies?
> > > With Marc leaving after all this time it basically says they
Half Life is
> > > either written or just never going to progress anymore. Valve
doesn't
> > have
> > > the drive or energy to make games anymore, they only profit
from the few
> > > they've made and spend the rest of their time making business
decisions.
> > >
> > > I mean, there is the upcoming Vive of course but will that
really be
> > > anything redeeming? How have those Steam machines and Steam
OS been
> > doing?
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Weasels Lair
<wea...@weaselslair.com <mailto:wea...@weaselslair.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks like nobody may be working on HL franchise any more
(with Marc
> > > > Laidlaw leaving). Just hope the multiplayer stuff stays
working for a
> > few
> > > > more years.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Rowedahelicon <
> > > > theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com
<mailto:theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> When this works he says~
> > > >>
> > > >> Still, it would have been nice to get a nice little
message telling
> > > >> everyone, they'll tell us that the hats have stopped dropping
> > eventually,
> > > >> right?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:47 AM, ED-E
<ed-e_fo...@wobre.com <mailto:ed-e_fo...@wobre.com>> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks man, that makes sense, i have seen they removed it
from the
> > store
> > > >>> too. Communication with the customers leaves a lot to be
desired by
> > Valve
> > > >>> though.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I wanted to surprise my staff of my community with items
(worth ~2
> > keys
> > > >>> each) last year, special name/description tagged and in
the end gift
> > > >>> wrapped. I pushed it from christmas to new year (for
other reasons
> > though)
> > > >>> and now i'm still having them in my inventory, in hopes
this would
> > be fixed
> > > >>> soon. Well I guess once this works again, I'll go with
"Hey guys,
> > random
> > > >>> surprise for no reason other than you are awesome!" :)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>> From: uasmatrix <uasmat...@aim.com
<mailto:uasmat...@aim.com>>
> > > >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
<mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > > >>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 10:20:05 -0500
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update released
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Supposedly it's not really broken, but Valve disabled
it for the
> > time
> > > >>> being due to the fact that people could bypass their Escrow /
> > confirmation
> > > >>> bullshit with it.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Basically if someone had their account taken, then the
hijacker
> > could
> > > >>> gift away the person's items to some alt, and there would
be no
> > issue with
> > > >>> having to confirm anything since it's a gift.
> > > >>> > Plus, since you can remove gift text now, it wouldn't
even devalue
> > > >>> anything in the eyes of the hijacker or anyone else.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I don't know how true that is, but there was some
discussion about
> > it
> > > >>> here:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> >
http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/47275-psa-gift-wrap-and-giftapults/
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > In that thread there's a link to some Reddit post where
some guy
> > > >>> apparently had the above happen to him.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> > From: ED-E <ed-e_fo...@wobre.com
<mailto:ed-e_fo...@wobre.com>>
> > > >>> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <
> > > >>> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
<mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>>
> > > >>> > Sent: Fri, Jan 8, 2016 1:26 pm
> > > >>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 update
released
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Gift Wraps are broken since "Tough Break" update.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > You cannot wrap items anymore (this is tested by
multiple people),
> > you
> > > >>> > hear the sound, your see the counter going down, but
that's about
> > it.
> > > >>> > I tried to inform last year via TF Team contact from
the website,
> > > >>> > support ticket and in the TF2 forum (where already were
couple of
> > > >>> > threads), but after seeing this patch it seems to be
ignored, thus
> > I
> > > >>> > give this here a try. So please fix.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Am 07.01.2016 um 23:40 schrieb Eric Smith:
> > > >>> > > We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The update
notes are
> > > >>> below. The new version is 3214643.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > -Eric
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > -------------------------------
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > - Fixed some random client crashes related to memory
exhaustion
> > for
> > > >>> Mac clients
> > > >>> > > - Significantly reduced memory usage on Mac and Linux
clients
> > > >>> > > - Added LBTF2 6v6 Season 12 and LBTF2 Highlander Season 3
> > tournament
> > > >>> medals
> > > >>> > > - Added the ability to restore festivized weapons via
the context
> > > >>> menu
> > > >>> > > - Fixed an issue causing maps with packed assets to
occasionally
> > > >>> have pink textures when played on servers using sv_pure
> > > >>> > > - Fixed the Australium Minigun and Scattergun materials
> > > >>> > > - Fixed objective names in deathnotice HUD using
white text when
> > the
> > > >>> local player was involved
> > > >>> > > - Fixed the Quick-Fix Medi Gun not healing the Medic
after
> > switching
> > > >>> away from the Medi Gun and back while the charge is draining
> > > >>> > > - Updated the model/materials for The Bolted
Birdcage, The
> > Scrumpy
> > > >>> Strongbox, Pirate Bandana, The Crone's Dome, The Hat With
No Name,
> > The
> > > >>> Gaelic Garb (now paintable), and A Well Wrapped Hat (new
paint style)
> > > >>> > > - Updated The Frenchman's Formals so it can also be
equipped by
> > the
> > > >>> Scout and added a new paint style
> > > >>> > > - Updated the backpack image for the Taunt: Soldier's
Requiem
> > > >>> > > - Updated the Man Melter so extinguishing a teammate
will return
> > 20
> > > >>> health to the Pyro
> > > >>> > > - Updated Mad Milk and Mutated Milk so both grant a
20% cooldown
> > > >>> reduction when used to extinguish a burning teammate.
> > > >>> > > - Updated the server log entry for kick votes to
include the ID
> > of
> > > >>> the vote initiator
> > > >>> > > - Updated cp_vanguard to fix an exploit related to
spawn room
> > doors
> > > >>> > > - Updated pl_snowycoast
> > > >>> > > - Fixed several unintended perches
> > > >>> > > - Fixed being able to damage through the setup gates
> > > >>> > > - Added some fences & cover inside BLU's first
spawn to
> > reduce
> > > >>> spam angles
> > > >>> > > - Added an extra resupply in BLU's first spawn
and RED's last
> > > >>> spawn
> > > >>> > > - Moved medium health kit at 1st point back
towards BLU's
> > side
> > > >>> of choke
> > > >>> > > - Changed collision on large railings to allow
projectiles
> > > >>> > > - Added some cover to the sentry platform inside last
> > > >>> > > - Adjusted lighting/detailing at stair to 2nd
point low
> > flank to
> > > >>> make it more obvious
> > > >>> > > - Quonset hut sniper deck raised
> > > >>> > > - Spawn locations in RED's first moved further
from the door
> > > >>> > > - Added windows to main entrance of RED's first spawn
> > > >>> > > - Adjusted the narrow fence near RED spawn
> > > >>> > > - Prevented building teleporters at the edge of
spawn doors
> > > >>> > > - Fixed an exploit related to BLU's 2nd forward
spawn's
> > entrances
> > > >>> > > - Added some logic to prevent players getting
stuck when
> > RED's
> > > >>> first spawn closes
> > > >>> > > - Changed how RED spawn moves players to their
last spawn
> > when
> > > >>> 2nd is capped (no longer slays & respawns)
> > > >>> > > - Replaced dump truck in kennels with crates
> > > >>> > > - Door near RED's first spawn now opens as the cart
> > approaches
> > > >>> 2nd instead of after capture
> > > >>> > > - Switched main exit and window on RED's last spawn
> > > >>> > > - Adjusted placement of health and ammo near
RED's last spawn
> > > >>> > > - Fixed various floating props
> > > >>> > > - Fixed some texture alignment issues in the tunnels
> > > >>> > > - Fixed spot on last ramp that would keep the
cart from
> > rolling
> > > >>> back
> > > >>> > > - Fixed some smoothing/geometry problems on
crates at last
> > > >>> > > - Reduced size of kill zone on falling crates
during finale
> > > >>> > > - Added map menu photos
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
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