We couldn't have THAT, now could we? :P -- Eric (the Deacon remix)
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of MoD > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] problems with dual athlons? > > If all non related mails were off list we had about one e-mail a day... :> > > MoD, > > Always @ your service. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Oscar N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] problems with dual athlons? > > > > Hmm, how about dropping this thread and take it on some other mailing > > list :P > > > > /Oscar, www.bhood.nu > > > > > > Matthew gossage wrote: > > > > >but you might say that, but then u'd have to say Tyan took a shortcut > > >aswell, And tyan don't do shortcuts > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "m0gely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:57 PM > > >Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] problems with dual athlons? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Brian Vagnoni XO wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Dear All; > > >>> > > >>>I respectfully disagree, kind gentleman that it's an advantage. You > > >>> > > >>> > > >>lose a > > >> > > >> > > >>>pci slot; and if it is a 64 bit card with a 64 bit bus, that's a total > > >>>waist > > >>>of a 64bit 66mhz pci bus slot. I can think of so many better devices > > >>> > > >>> > > >>that > > >> > > >> > > >>>I > > >>>would rather stick in those special slots than a usb card. Even if it > > >>> > > >>> > > >>is a > > >> > > >> > > >>>32bit bus card you still can't call it a 5 pci slot motherboard they > > >>> > > >>> > > >>are > > >> > > >> > > >>>stealing one of your slots because they decided to rush it out the > > >>> > > >>> > > >>door. > > >> > > >> > > >>>Also, may I point out my respected colleagues that if AMD broke the > > >>> > > >>> > > >>code, > > >> > > >> > > >>>I > > >>>still argue that the boards were rushed out the door. Giga-byte > > >>> > > >>> > > >>managed to > > >> > > >> > > >>>get their product out the door at the same time the others did with > > >>> > > >>> > > >>the > > >> > > >> > > >>>usb > > >>>ports where they are suppose to be, where every other manufacturer > > >>> > > >>> > > >>places > > >> > > >> > > >>>them. What did they do differently? Why couldn't MSI and or ASUS do > > >>> > > >>> > > >>the > > >> > > >> > > >>>same > > >>> > > >>> > > >>I really don't see how you can make that statement unless you know the > > >>reasons behind it. The flip side to your coin would be that asus/msi > > >>took an EXTRA step and gigabyte took the shortcut. Your premise seams > > >>to be totally based on physical location of the usb ports and the fact > > >>you lose a PCI slot. Maybe all in all to get it done properly and w/ > > >>the best performance this is the way it had to be done? Now I don't > > >>know this for a fact but neither do you know your point for fact. And I > > >>am not sure where Andrew's board was bought, but the usb 2.0 card that > > >>came w/ my asus is 32bit/33mhz as is stated in the manual as well as it > > >>only fits in the 32bit slots :). > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>and why have they since produced models that correct the problem, if > > >>> > > >>> > > >>this > > >> > > >> > > >>>is > > >>>truly an advantage why aren't they marketing it as one. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>Because some times a company will make a decision to do something and > > >>realize that ultimately it is personal preference in the eye of the > > >>user. But they still had 2 paths to take, they just took the one they > > >>took. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>In addition they > > >>>had > > >>>to seriously alter a normally standard system bios code to remove the > > >>> > > >>> > > >>in > > >> > > >> > > >>>house usb code. Again all things that could cause the possibility of > > >>> > > >>> > > >>lock > > >> > > >> > > >>>ups. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>They seriously altered the bios code? Did they? How do you know this? > > >>Cause the usb is on a card? How do you know this and even if they did > > >>is it really that difficult? And on top of that you say this is > > >>possibly the cause of lockups? If asus has been ANYTHING, it's stable. > > >>You are taking a leap here w/ these statements. You say this stuff but > > >>you say it in a way that makes me think you don't really know what > > >>you're talking about. > > >> > > >>If the features of the board don't suite you then that's one thing, but > > >>don't slam it cause it's not perfect in your eyes. I could dream up > > >>what I think the perfect board is w/ the ultimate expansion and > > >>configuration and undoubtedly, people would tell me it's not that great. > > >>No board out there is perfect for every use. > > >> > > >>And for people who make the statement about the virtual irq's and the > > >>asus pci slot not working well w/ busmaster cards can you expand? The > > >>irq thing should be solved by choosing 'non pnp os' and 'mps 1.1' in the > > >>bios. As for the slots, the manual and the asus site says all slots are > > >>capable of running bus master cards. My mobo isn't loaded up but I > > >>don't have any problems. It has an sblive (onboard disabled), 3com 990r > > >>nic, the usb card, adaptec 39160. > > >> > > >>- m0gely > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> > > >> > > >please visit: > > > > > > > > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
