> > ...*jaw drops to the floor
> >
> > Perhaps we've installed different distros both using the name
> > "RedHat"?
>
> Then I guess you cannot read the instructions. The options are
> clearly stated in the install to choose whatever packages you
> do and dont want.
>
> Try RTFM next time.
>
> Its not rocket science eric, its simply reading.

Yeah, you can go through the headache of trying to navigate the jungle
of dependencies and little obscure stuff hidden down in subdirectories
15 levels down, spending time and effort to dumb something down that
shouldn't have to be spent.  Why go through the effort of pruning a
gnarled, mangled tree when you can start with a solid trunk to begin
with?  Building from the ground up is a much better solution--especially
as it pertains to HL servers--than to tear down a house of cards to its
foundations.

> Theres your problem, default configuration... Do you not know
> how to configure it yourself?
>
> Can you not check the little boxes in redhat which turn off all
> the nastys?
>
> Can you not go through dselect and decide which packages you
> need?

See above.

> For gods sake Eric, perhaps with all your car analogy's you
> should join the trucks_are_cool mailing list of some shit? The
> crap you waffle has no relevance to computers so often.

You know, you don't have to bash the analogy (which is pretty
straight-forward) just because either a) you can't grasp it or b) you
don't like where it leads.  "all your car anologies" is also pretty
puzzling.  Even if car analogies were a problem (it's not, at least to
reasonable people), they're not tossed out in a rapid-fire manner...

> The guy stated a problem, you gave him an answer of gentoo.
> Which is a total bollock suggestion, and in no way a fix to his
> problem.

Actually, he mentioned he'd installed Mandrake and may have asked about
which distro would be better (I can't remember...isn't that a pretty
good indicator of where this thread has gone?).  Regardless, it was
obvious that it was going to go down the Old Distro Road, so I got in
first with a one-line reply to a one-line quote suggesting that gentoo
would be a more appropriate and sensible distribution for a dedicated HL
server.

> Of course there are differences, but subtles ones, such as
> configuration and packagemanagement, but the core is still the
> same.

I think that even that one specific difference warrants actual cognitive
thought.

> Gentoo is linux. linux is a kernel, it runs the same daemons,
> the same file system, it has the same swapping method as
> debian, redhat, slackware, xandros and every other damn distro
> of linux (with the exception of ones like lindows, which is
> simply hacked up xandros, which in turn is simply hacked up
> debian).

Then why have distros at all?  Perhaps--and this is just a wild guess
here--there are different distros targeted toward a) different
applications and b) different users at different levels of proficiency.

> Each to their own, you like this new toy, i like that one,
> regardless, it does not make either a better solution, at the
> core, they are still the same.

Just because two things share a common foundation does not mean that
they are going to be equal solutions to a problem.

--
Eric (the Deacon remix)

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