"There are about five people who are currently testing the linux server. I
know and have met them all personally. It's just the most efficient way to
test something right before we ship it."

That is the answer I was looking for.  If I seemed rude or angry with Valve,
that was not my intent.  I am simply trying to understand why valve takes so
damn long to test anything on linux.  Check your server list for beta 1.6.
Nothing but 150-400 ping listen servers.  How do you expect any client to
test anything when the servers are nothing but a bunch of cable/dsl listen
servers.  The biggest complaint I hear is there are no good servers to play
on.  Maybe if they would stop waiting until the last minute to release the
linux version, they could get more players and have better quality control
during beta testing.  The truth of the matter is that MOST, not all, most of
the people with the greatest amount of bandwidth and server resources in
general...are running nix..not win32.  So like many long time nix gaming
admins, Im tired of having the resources to do something, but lack the
ability because there is not a port for linux.  Hence my frustration with
valve, EA and others concerning their support of linux.

.
As far as these answers:
>Possibly people who have proven themselves as compitent admins running
servers
that are well populated all the time.  And people who are running different
distributions od OS's across a veriety of hardware.>

Ive run hlds on distros of RH from 5.x to 8.x.  As far as populated servers.
I have several servers which are full 24/7.  As far as being a competent
admin.  I won't even waste text other than to say you don't get the
community I have for the length of time I have had it, were I not competent
both as a server op and as owner of my community.

>I think it's possible for a person who has been running s server for months
to
be more qualified than a person who has been running s server for years>

Possible, but extremely unlikely.  Only thru long experience with HLDS and
knowledge of the game and server itself does that ability come from.  Are
there guys who live and breathe linux who know more from a technical aspect?
yes, but that doesn't mean they know what is needed or the best and most
efficient way to run HLDS.

>I think it's safe to assume you won't be on that list now.>

Well considering there are only 5 testers, yes.  But not because of my
statement.  The only people that statement should offend is someone who
feels the statement is true and needs to defend themselves.  The truth of
the matter in many things online IS who you know and whose ass you kiss.  To
say otherwise would be ignorant.

>There, someone answered!>

There were no answers in your replies, only sarcasm.  Erik who might have
had reason to reply in your manner chose not to.  Maybe take a lesson from
him.  If you can not give reasonable and rational answers.  Do not bother
replying.  It only starts flame wars.  He (erik) is quite capable of
standing up for Valve and himself, he doesn't need an a brown noser to reply
for him.



----- Original Message -----
From: "m0gely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Linux STEAM Server Download


> Daniel Stroven wrote:
>
> > My question is why would should it be limited?  Who are these people who
are
> > given access to steam linux while other nix admins are not.
>
> Possibly people who have proven themselves as compitent admins running
servers
> that are well populated all the time.  And people who are running
different
> distributions od OS's across a veriety of hardware.
>
> > Who decides who
> > can beta test the beta linux before its released for BETA testing?
>
> This is a guess, but Valve?
>
> > I been
> > running cs servers since beta 5.2..always on linux.  Thats a long time.
> > Yet, Im willing to bet half the people who are "private" testing linux
beta
> > haven't been running CS servers for half as long.
>
> I think it's possible for a person who has been running s server for
months to
> be more qualified than a person who has been running s server for years.
Not to
> discredit your skills. I don't know you.  It's also possible that you're
not the
> only one who has been running a CS server for so long.  If 1000 people
have done
> so and they only need 100 people for testing, then a few people will be
left out.
>
> > Maybe if I knew the right
> > person or kissed the right ass,  I wouldn't be asking these questions.
>
> I think it's safe to assume you won't be on that list now.
>
> > Since I am asking, I hope someone on the list has some of these answers.
>
> There, someone answered!
>
> --
> - m0gely
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