hehe, Steam will be free, havn't you read the news man? and do you think they just ignore the bugs that are discovered? Probably they have a list with the most important changes and the less important... So why look for alternatives ?
----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:12 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] After 3 years, I've had enough. > Respect? To valve? Do they show respect to the community? Do they fix bugs, that the beta testers discover? Will steam be free in further future like it has been always told to us? > > I think it's time to look for alternatives... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:36 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] After 3 years, I've had enough. > > > > > > People, > > > > Please show some respect! This is the Hlaf-Life Dedicated > > Server mailing > > list and not an advertisment list for some other games! Also > > keep in mind > > that the Half-Life core was build in the 90tees! Almost 10 years old! > > > > Thanks! > > > > Tom > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "0x2e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:58 PM > > Subject: [hlds_linux] After 3 years, I've had enough. > > > > > > > > > > Subject says it all. > > > > > > > > > When people ask serious questions of a companies product reguarding > > > security, and get no reply, there is something wrong with > > said company. I > > > don't buy the idea their network is being rebuilt either. Obviously > > > something there is still on or this list wouldn't be > > running nor would > > > helpvalve@ work. How hard is it to have Leon H. send an > > email from pine? > > > > > > I fully believe M$ was/still has controlling interest in > > valve. If you > > > don't understand why that is a bad thing, you never will. > > > > > > From the : > > > > > > - dick-wagging by Gabe re: DX9 and ATI's "Better support" vs. > > > OpenGL and NVIDIA, AMD vs. Intel, etc. Look to the archives to > > > find the truth. > > > > > > - their unwillingness to deviate from M$ products (be it mail/web > > > server used internaly, etc -- Notice I _didn't_ say deviate from > > > _Windows_ products, nor OS of choice), even if said deviation > > > would be better. > > > > > > - _requiring_ "content" providers to run 2k3 server, but having no > > > idea why people would be unwilling to "help" them. > > > > > > - re-inventing the content distrubution wheel for some > > > gawdforsaken reason (Sun's Java Webstart vs. M$'s .NET), etc. etc. > > > Then having no idea why it fell apart. > > > > > > - Refusing to listen the outcry from a community they supposedly > > > "listen to" (re: steam, shields, etc) > > > > > > - Not only releasing a buggy as hell BETA product despite serious > > > problems being found BEFORE the release, But, forcing the > > > world to download said product without having the infrastructure > > > to back it. Again, with no clue why it failed. > > > > > > Btw valve, where are your buddies at ATI on this? I see they > > > have no mirror yet that other company you seem to not like has a > > > few (Nvidia). > > > > > > - Refusing to listen again to community suggestions about > > > possible ways to fix the bandwidth problem (re: .torrent files, > > > supporting other _established_ mirroring methods like html, rsync, > > > etc.). M$ way or no way again, Even though it would have > > > eliminated the problem. > > > > > > - Total lack of priorities with again, security. It speaks > > > volumes when major security patches are produced outside of a > > > company, well before said company releases their own official > > > patch. Windows and "It will be included in the next serice pack", > > > comes to mind. > > > > > > > > > My latest question to Valve was not the only security > > question that has > > > went unanswered. A few weeks back I pointed out how the > > SteamID, smelled > > > like a passport ID for example. I have never seen a reply > > from valve on > > > that nor many other concerns. Btw, if you don't know why > > passport is BAD, > > > google it. It has little to do with the fact that M$ runs it. > > > > > > > > > I could go on but I won't. You guys get the picture heh. > > > > > > I have removed my CS servers, and replaced them with UT2k3 > > and Q3A. You > > > wanna see SWEET games? Play 'em :-) .. Native linux binaries too! > > > > > > For UT2k3 at least, it's VERY easy to code your own mods. > > By mods I don't > > > mean like CS/DoD-type a deal where it totaly changes the > > game (which is > > > still very easy). I mean admin stuff, changing weapon > > skins/power, etc. > > > Basicaly Metamod, but supported natively! (through UTScript) > > > > > > Unlike HL where it's a mod to the server that even though > > being used on > > > 99.9% of every server out there, Valve refuses to add it > > as an official > > > feature (doesn't come with HLDS). Amazing eh? > > > > > > > > > Happy trails peeps, been fun. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
