Troy Davisson wrote:
No sign of it changing yet.
Shut up with these "WTF is your problem!? Steam works fine for me.
There must be something seriously wrong with you" threads. Do you need
them to run VNC to prove to you that it doesn't work? Come on...
-Troy
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Scientist
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Another, Thank you Valve for bringing us Steam
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According to the great words of KnowHow The NetCrawler:
I think the problems hasn't been that Valve hasn't tested their
program, I just think that they don't test it on the magnitude of
different machines they really should.
I think they underestimate how much power they really have when it
comes to online gaming, and therefore many things simply slip they
minds.
Right. Things "slip" their minds. They only have the most popular game
on the Internet for the past several years. And they underestimate that
people might have different machines, OS, language... I'm sorry, but
that's amateur. But then, perhaps if Valve had actually made the most
popular game instead of acquiring it after it was mostly complete, and
perhaps if they had built their own game engine instead of mod'ing an
existing game engine, then they would have a clue. But since they
didn't make those games or the engine and just acquired/rebuilt them, I
think it's safe to say they just knew what the grab and when, and they
really have no clue whatsoever how to manage what they have. I'm really
beginning to believe the success of Valve has been based on luck and
timing, not skill in game development. We will see in the long run if
things continue to fall apart...
-Mad
I think you misunderstood me, or I might not have been very clear on the
subject.
I don't think it's okay that Valve screws with things and then put it
public before testing it.
And I'm not saying that the problems you have had with Steam aren't
valid, I'm just saying that I'm perfectly happy with, hell, I even like it.
But it's easy for me, I only run one server, out of my own pocket, so
I'm not loosing anything by having steam instead of WON, actually I'm
gaining, since everythings been running smooth for me with steam.
While I understand your frustrations I don't share them, and coming from
that situation I have no beef with valve.
While many of you talk of closing down your CS servers, I'm actually
planning on opening another one.
And while I realize that the ppl saying that valve are gods for
supporting such an old game fail to understand that it's still valves
most prominent source of income, I still think the support is great. Not
once have I mailed someone at valve in vain, I've always been answered
on a day to day basis, except for one time, where they even apologized
for being so late in answering my mail.
I fully understand that they don't follow this list, there's way to much
fluff for it to be worth their while. Hell, I don't even read it all.
But try to understand that while your problems are valid, mailing this
list, threatening to stop running valves game will get you nowhere.
Try mailing them yourselves. Try giving them some input directly,
instead of writing here.
This mailinglist is great ofr user to user help, but the years I've been
here it has never been the place to get comments from valve directly.
--
-KnowHow
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