Uhm, there´s nothing to fix!

Fakeplayers are actually nothing else than

bot_quota XX
bot_join_after_player 0
bot_join_team spectator

(very simple spoken)

with the difference that the fakeplayer plugin generate (mostly) a fake ping & 
applies random names, wich is unrelated to the player ammount wich is shown!

As VALVE introduced with a serwerbrowser update (quiet some time ago) bot´s 
reduce the shown slots on steam serverbrowser, so "if you set it to 22 fake 
players, then your server only shows as a 2 slot server on the list (if it's a 
24 slot server)", BUT,
this is ignored by any query plugin (or services e.g gametracker/game.monitor) 
and shows the actually max available slots (maxplayers) and the ammount of 
players wich are on (incl. bot_quota!)

This is fue VALVEs query protocol.

The only suggestion here would be that VALVE updates the query protocol, 
respective the engine to stream only maxplayers and automaticaly drops bots fom 
stream liveplayers amount, similar to how it is done for the steabrowser.

Greets

_Makz


> Valve..... Its time to take some control back! Fake players really f**ks
> me
> off :)
> 
> On 12/10/08, 1nsane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I believe this is the one:
> > http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=74304&page=1
> >
> > Maybe valve can make an update which changes the signature and we can
> hope
> > that no one finds the new one!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Joseph Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Its a mod plugin: 
> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=571889
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > JäKë T wrote:
> > > > Well, just something that I think valve should look into.
> > > > I noticed a few clans doing this for their servers. Mostly Tf2 and
> CSS,
> > I
> > > found this page from looking up an ip because I joined a server one
> day
> > that
> > > said 29/32 players, when I got in there was noone on that server and 5
> > > seconds later I was redirected to a new server which happen to be the
> > [-Q-]
> > > Clan
> > > > So I thought thats kind of bad for the other poor people getting
> > > redirected and also other clans who are getting screwed over from
> them.
> > > > Here is a link you can see they have 33 fake servers running this
> hack
> > at
> > > the moment.
> > > >
> > http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=70.79.233.228&location=CA
> > > > There is the link check for yourself, it shows fake players with a
> > score
> > > and time connected to the servers.
> > > > Valve needs to find a patch for this, or cut off the people using it
> > from
> > > the lists.
> > > > I've send emails to valve about this with no reply. Maybe if more
> > people
> > > know or complain about it something might get done.
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