Don't forget those servers that currently have lag spike/connection problems/steamed verify errors due to Valves couple of last updates, will they be delisted due to valves coding?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Rak Sent: 13 March 2009 04:10 To: [email protected] Subject: [hlds_linux] TF2 Delisting I'm a bit worried about this new server delisting system.. I see a few issues: A) Every major GSP (a large portion of the servers) reuses IP addresses between different clients. It's entirely possible (and very likely) that someone is going to get their server delisted, then request that their IP be changed, leaving the next client to deal with that. Are these delistings permanent? B) It's not said if one client can effect the rank of a server multiple times? Can I retry to a server over and over to effectively delist it? This *will* be exploited if it's possible, there's no doubt in my mind. C) Is it possible to tell if a server's been delisted? If not, how can we possibly tell the difference between an error causing the server to not appear on the list, and a delisting? I'd recommend using A2S_PRINT messages to at least give the server some indication that they have been delisted. D) Does getting kicked/banned from a server effect it's position? There are a number of server plugins that kick players shortly after they connect for various reasons, (ex: Steambans, Sourcebans, various other banning plugins). Are servers going to be negatively effected because they kick bad clients? E) I'm a bit nervous about trusting the client to report bad servers... seems entirely possible malicious clients will just send fake data to cause problems with servers. You can see the problems that trusting clients with achievement data caused.. Overall, this seems like a decent solution to the fake servers, but I'm really worried about this causing more problems then it fixes - Brian "devicenull" Rak _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
