Very good point. Still, it's not like even tried on this one. I'm just looking for a solution which doesn't involve removing servers from the master list, because I think that's a pretty bad way to go.
Donnie Newlove wrote: > And while we are at it why not get rid of VAC and just make it > impossible to cheat on the client? Then we could stop piracy by making > cracking copy protections and DRM impossible. Heck, why not go all the > way and create world peace? > > Sorry, but making it impossible to lie would of course me ideal, only > problem is... that is impossible. > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, David A. Parker <[email protected]> wrote: >> True, but at least the small servers would still be in the list. If >> Valve implements this as they described on their blog, those servers >> would be removed from the list entirely. >> >> From the blog: >> >> "It's a tricky problem because our master servers need to ask a game >> server for its details, and that server can lie to us if it wants to." >> >> Well, it's your game, running on your engine, using your protocols and >> talking to your servers, so if you don't want these servers to be giving >> you fake information then why not fix it so they can't? Nah, instead >> you're just going to act like this is completely out of your control. >> It seems like actually removing servers from the master list is a >> decision that will cause a lot more trouble than its worth, and it's >> also the lazy way out. >> >> - Dave >> >> Donnie Newlove wrote: >>> That would not be without its problems either. There would be modded >>> 32 slot servers only at the top, big servers would grow even bigger >>> and the small servers would get even smaller. >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:58 PM, David A. Parker <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I read that blog post last night, and I agree with the OP that Valve is >>>> going about this the wrong way. It seems to me that entirely delisting >>>> servers with poor scores is a bad idea. What they should do is put a >>>> "server score" field into the serverbrowser, so players can sort by >>>> score. Hacked servers, etc., would still be listed, bu they would be at >>>> the bottom. Also, as mentioned before, there is sure to be some kind of >>>> exploit to rapidly connect and disconnect from a server a few hundred >>>> times, effectively delisting it. >>>> >>>> Just my $0.02 (USD). >>>> >>>> - Dave >>>> >>>> Donnie Newlove wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Brian Rak <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I'm a bit worried about this new server delisting system.. I see a few >>>>>> issues: >>>>>> >>>>>> A) Every major GSP (a large portion of the servers) reuses IP addresses >>>>>> between different clients. It's entirely possible (and very likely) >>>>>> that someone is going to get their server delisted, then request that >>>>>> their IP be changed, leaving the next client to deal with that. Are >>>>>> these delistings permanent? >>>>> Then every major GSP will have to forbid hacking servers to inflate >>>>> the player count if they want to protect their addresses. Which is of >>>>> course great. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Dave Parker >>>> Utica College >>>> Integrated Information Technology Services >>>> (315) 792-3229 >>>> Registered Linux User #408177 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> -- >> >> Dave Parker >> Utica College >> Integrated Information Technology Services >> (315) 792-3229 >> Registered Linux User #408177 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
