This is still an issue.  We are definitely randomly crashing.  Anyone see
dmesg on their servers? I found some interesting segfaults:

[41080.700654] srcds_i486[6347]: segfault at 0 ip b4f172b9 sp bfee3290 error
4 in server_i486.so[b4afd000+eb3000]
[98319.377413] srcds_i486[9007]: segfault at 0 ip b7e71643 sp bfcf77c4 error
4 in libc-2.7.so[b7e3d000+155000]
[174839.987867] srcds_i486[11880]: segfault at 0 ip b4f172b9 sp bfee3310
error 4 in server_i486.so[b4afd000+eb3000]
[287447.935181] srcds_i486[15793]: segfault at 0 ip b4f172b9 sp bfee3310
error 4 in server_i486.so[b4afd000+eb3000]

It goes on....

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM, David A. Parker <[email protected]> wrote:

> One more interesting thing is that even when you kill a fork with "quit"
> or "_restart" it still shows up in the netcon master console:
>
> $ telnet 0 9000
> Trying 0.0.0.0...
> Connected to 0.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> PASS xxxxx
> status
> #status
> child 0
>  pid : 0
>  map : l4d_farm01_hilltop
>  numplayers : 0
> child 1
>  pid : 1
>  map : l4d_farm01_hilltop
>  numplayers : 0
> child 2
>  pid : 2
>  map : l4d_farm01_hilltop
>  numplayers : 0
> child 3
>  pid : 3
>  map : l4d_farm01_hilltop
>  numplayers : 0
> child 4
>  pid : 4
>  map : l4d_farm01_hilltop
>  numplayers : 0
> child 5
>  pid : 5
>  map : l4d_vs_hospital01_apartment
>  numplayers : 0
> #end
>
> Child 0 (fork #1) is the one I took down with _restart.
>
> David A. Parker wrote:
> > Same things happens with _restart:
> >
> > _restart
> > L 08/20/2009 - 10:31:42: Preventing spawning
> > L 08/20/2009 - 10:31:42: server_message: "quit"
> > L 08/20/2009 - 10:31:42: Log file closed
> > L 08/20/2009 - 10:31:42: server_message: "restart"
> >
> > And then the fork never comes back.  This is the same behavior as
> > "quit".  When this happens the shutdown of the fork gets logged, though,
> > and that doesn't happen when they die on their own.
> >
> > w4rezz wrote:
> >> quit to force auto-restart? what happened with "_restart" command ?
> >>
> >> 2009/8/20 David A. Parker <[email protected]>:
> >>> I remember the same symptoms happening when "quit" was used as well,
> and
> >>> I think that is something Valve needs to fix (forks should auto-restart
> >>> like any other instance of srcds, but they don't).  However, server
> >>> forks are apparently dying on their own since the July 31 update.  And,
> >>> as Ronny pointed out, it seems this only happens to non-idle forks.
> >>>
> >>> [email protected] wrote:
> >>>> I haven't checked recently, as we're reorganising our servers at the
> moment,
> >>>> but I certainly used to be able to trigger this simply by issuing an
> rcon
> >>>> "quit" command to a child server.  Confused the hell out of me the
> first
> >>>> time I say it, as this certainly _used_ to work
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> >>>>> Of David A. Parker
> >>>>> Sent: 19 August 2009 15:54
> >>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D forks keep crashing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is what I noticed as well.  Most of the time, when the
> >>>>> forks crash
> >>>>> on my server, they show up as having players on them in the netcon
> >>>>> master console.  The most recent time this happened was the
> >>>>> only time so
> >>>>> far that a crashed fork has shown 0 players in the master console.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I also have two forks which are Steam group servers and have
> >>>>> not had any
> >>>>> players on them recently, and they have not crashed.  It
> >>>>> certainly looks
> >>>>> like this only happens to forks which have had players on them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      - Dave
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ronny Schedel wrote:
> >>>>>> As far as I have seen, it occurs after the game is over and
> >>>>> the server goes
> >>>>>> back to hibernating state. Idle servers are never affected
> >>>>> by this. It does
> >>>>>> not occur all the time, I suspect it occurs when there is a
> >>>>> problem with the
> >>>>>> connection to the master server to set the free state for
> >>>>> the server or
> >>>>>> something similar.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jay Deiman wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Ronny Schedel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The crashes occur on a vanilla server.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yeah, I will second that (again).  It seems to be fairly
> >>>>> random as well.
> >>>>>>>> Jay
> >>>>>>> Happens to me as well, but only on server that are in use.
> >>>>>>> I also have some forks that are private and have not been
> >>>>> used lately.
> >>>>>>> So it's definitly not something that just happens at random but is
> >>>>>>> triggered during useage. Although I am unable to determine
> >>>>> the cause.
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