You don't necessarily have to 'crack' or 'touch Valve files' to break the EULA:
"(...) You are (...) not entitled to (...) host or provide matchmaking services for the Steam Software or emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Valve in any network feature of the Steam Software, through protocol emulation, tunneling, modifying or adding components to the Steam Software, use of a utility program or any other techniques now known or hereafter developed, for any purpose including, but not limited to network play over the Internet, network play utilizing commercial or non-commercial gaming networks or as part of content aggregation networks (...)" On 3/14/2010 10:22 PM, EVAgames Community wrote: > Well, dproto isn't a crack theoretically. It doesn't even touch any of > Valve files. Witch means, that there are no problems with EULA. So I don't > see any country law problems here. So, as we know - most of ISP's allow to > upload metamod plugins without any restrictions. And anyone can upload > this sh...t to server without ISP knowledge about it. > > > In other hand, about the ISP responsibility. There are such things like > ISP/Client agreements witch make client responsible for the custom content > that he uploads during the server rent time. > > > We complain ISP for renting cracked servers. Maybe maxrate.pl doesn't even > know what dproto does. They got complains about the plugin after the > update and asked us. We told them what we told and not they will know what > to do. Not to support that client or maybe suspend his account or... maybe > warn about the plugin. > > > > > > > On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:01:24 +0200, Nicolas 'NykO18' Grevet > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Yeah, or Sweden. Doesn't look like a country with an undeveloped >> internet law to me. >> >> Regards, >> -- Nicolas "NykO18" Grevet >> >> Le 14/03/2010 20:59, Steven Crothers a écrit : >> >>> Sure, countries with an undeveloped internet law... or China. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicolas >>> 'NykO18' Grevet >>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 3:43 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] dproto >>> >>> Not in every country. >>> >>> Regards, >>> -- Nicolas "NykO18" Grevet >>> >>> Le 14/03/2010 19:24, Steven Crothers a écrit : >>> >>>> Actually, your responsible for 100% of the material on your server at >>>> any >>>> given time. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of pet >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 2:11 PM >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] dproto >>>> >>>> You probably didn't read what I have written before, customers which >>>> rents server from us is his owner for this time, and we are not >>>> responsible for what is on this servers, which files he stores and what >>>> modifications are there. This all in our terms, before the customer >>>> registrate on our web site, he have to approve it. >>>> W dniu 2010-03-14 19:04, Saul Rennison pisze: >>>> >>>>> But they're your servers... so you are responsible for what's on them. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> - Saul. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 14 March 2010 17:49, pet<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> We do not offer the non steam servers, check our offer in web site >>>>>> please, my answer was only because the customers are wery difficult >>>>>> this >>>>>> time, and ask us about some modifications which we not allowed to >>>>>> to. In >>>>>> our regulations which are also on our web site is clearly written, >>>>>> that >>>>>> we are not responsible for what the customers doing with their rented >>>>>> servers. >>>>>> >>>>>> W dniu 2010-03-14 18:43, Steven Crothers pisze: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> What's worse is that maxrate.pl (the OP's domain) is actually a GSP, >>>>>>> profiting off of these sales of illegal servers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps it's good that Valve's mail list was posted to, now they can >>>>>>> blacklist his ip ranges. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ross >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Bemrose >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 1:25 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] dproto >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Counter-Strike + Counter-Strike: Condition Zero is $9.99 USD on >>>>>>> Steam. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It also has two other bundles: >>>>>>> Counter-Strike 1 Anthology for $14.99. Includes: Counter-Strike, >>>>>>> Day >>>>>>> of Defeat, Deathmatch Classic, Ricochet, Counter-Strike: Condition >>>>>>> >>> Zero. >>> >>>>>>> Counter-Strike Complete for $29.99. Includes: Counter-Strike, Day >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> Defeat, Deathmatch Classic, Ricochet, Counter-Strike: Condition >>>>>>> Zero, >>>>>>> Counter-Strike: Source. >>>>>>> And of course, the Valve Complete Pack for $99.99. I won't list >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> here. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/14/2010 1:11 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doesn't 1.6 only cost like 5-10 $ nowadays? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2010 12:10 PM, "Steven >>>>>>>> Crothers"<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good, perhaps that'll encourage your cheap-self to buy the game. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> [mailto:hlds_linux-bounc... >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> >>>> please visit: >>>> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> >>> please visit: >>> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
