Complaining is one thing...making an opinion is another and yes that was/is
my opinion.

However at this point it does not matter - we can't even run regular servers
or maintain any player count due to the issues now presented from this
update let alone MvM which isn't bad to play, just sad I can't allow people
to play Mann Up on my servers that are as Vanilla as any other.

I like everyone else here is waiting on this update for this morning as told
from last night *takes deep breath* so we can get things working solid
again.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dan
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:28 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mann Co Servers?

On 16/08/2012 13:22, Frank wrote:
> I run two vanilla servers thanks.... and I wasn't one that was 
> requesting 6 players but it was a nice idea.

Yes you did complain about the 6 player limit Frank, you said "I for one
don't like the 6 player limit and would really like to push that as long as
the hardware can sustain it.

You also said you push 24 to 32, which makes me wonder if you know what
vanilla is as well (or if you were honest in that sentence at all)

> Point here is when you do separation like this community run servers 
> take a hit cause of the lack of incentives that the Valve servers will
get.

Not really, there are a sizeable number on SPUF that baulk at the idea of
paying 99 cents to play Mann up - whether they actually read the FAQ and
understood how the tickets work or not.

My son created a server on his computer yesterday, I joined from the lan,
and, as I suggested yesterday, 6 players works even with a capped upstream.

The only problem we had was stopping people connecting to it.

So if you can't fill an MvM server now, you're doing something wrong.

I'm sure the issues about what you're capable of or not are really about the
negative things we know server owners are capable of.
(Who knows, maybe if the start of your post hadn't told a huge fib it'd
convince Valve you're trustworthy? :) )

--
Dan

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