Eh, I wasn't really saying you can't tell the difference between when one crashes or another doesn't. I said it to bring to light how often they both crash. We've switched hosts and that problem went away. Thanks for the help though.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:38 AM, dan <[email protected]> wrote: > On 18/01/2013 21:22, Essay Tew Phaun wrote: > >> I just think it's pathetic that you can't even tell anymore what is at >> fault.Is it the clients? Is it the servers? Who knows. >> > > You can tell whether it's a server that's crashing or a client that's > crashing. > > So it's not really relevant for this thread. > > You could have found out the cause of your issue in the other thread too > had you > wanted to. > > The way to do it is to eliminate things. So, for example, is it a specific > map? How to find out? Try different maps. Is it the client or the server? > Run the game without a server (i.e a listen server) then if your problem > happens, it happens on that one computer. Or try different servers. If you > can, try different computers, renaming your config so it uses the defaults > etc etc. > > For client things you have lots to try, different drivers, configs and so > on. > > Read Sherlock Holmes. Once you've eliminated stuff it can't be, you get > left with what it must be. You can then make some meaningful noises that > would help someone recreate it if you're sure it's a bug in the game. > > But, if it's the client I would say use a different group. Why? > > 1. Because no one here knows anything special to help you. The group > doesn't contain any existing threads that will help you either. > 2. People are more likely to moan about this group being for server issues > 3. If you find a group you may find people with the same problem and > people without a problem at all. Which will help you spot patterns. > 4. If it's the client you need to post machine specs and driver versions > and try different ones and so on and so on. > In a different group with lots of people that play TF2 someone will say "I > have a C2D E8400 and a Pomegranate 5462 high overhead cam fuel injected > speedy Mark 5 Pan European Hogwash PCIe series graphics card and I use > windows 7 and the game runs fine for me" - so you can eliminate things that > just won't get eliminated if you try to solve the client problem by posting > here. > > Perhaps then you will find something that Valve have broken (like this > thread suggests is happening elsewhere) but, given the symptoms you > described a while back unless you have some esoteric hardware I'd say the > problem is most likely not the game. But I'll happily be proven wrong. > > -- > Dan > > > ______________________________**_________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
