That's great Owen, I'd be happy to provide feedback.

On 29 Dec 2008, at 15:11, Owen wrote:

>
> Tom, James & All Dedicated Hoboists,
>
> I received the green light from Ramon Barquin to pursue writing this
> book ASAP.  We are lucky to have Jeffrey Lapides leading this effort.
> Jeff has created a draft outline of goals and chapters that we aare
> reviewing today.
>
> The "draft" intended audiences:
>
>     * The RoR and Hobo novice, especially someone who wants to avoid
> RoR coding
>     * Technology leaders, architects, and evangelists
>     * A Technically savvy manager/designer who wants to develop but
> not code
>     * Advanced RoR developer who wants to go in a different direction
>
> Our goal is to have the first 100 pages by February 1...
>
> Stay tuned for more details.  To make this successful we will need
> input and editorial feedback from all.  How we will do this is yet
> TBD.
>
> Looking  forward to an exciting 2009!
>
> Owen
>
> On Dec 29, 5:31 am, Tom Locke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> While it would be nice to be able to use Hobo without Rails
>>> experience, it really doesn't seem practical - Hobo *is* Rails, in
>>> many parts. Trying to educate brand-new users about *everything*
>>> seems doomed to repeat much of the Rails docs.
>>
>> Yes you would have to repeat a lot, but I'm not sure the word  
>> "doomed"
>> is warranted : ) In the world of docs, DRY is not a virtue.
>>
>> Although there's a lot in Rails that Hobo people need a thorough  
>> grasp
>> of, there's also lot that they don't need to know tons about. E.g.
>> routing. Or rather, it's not that you don't need to know about
>> routing, but it becomes an advanced topic rather than an essential
>> one. The order of learning changes.
>>
>> The only way to give a seamless learning experience is for a book/
>> course/other on Rails and Hobo together. It is a lot of work though.
>>
>> I'm hoping someone else will write that book!
>>
>> Tom
> >


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