Hi,

Excellent news and many thanks to the supporters.

You may count with my feedback if needed.

TF

On Dec 29, 3:27 pm, Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, James--we'll need you!
>
> On Dec 29, 10:21 am, James Garlick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > That's great Owen, I'd be happy to provide feedback.
>
> > On 29 Dec 2008, at 15:11, Owen wrote:
>
> > > Tom, James & All Dedicated Hoboists,
>
> > > I received the green light from Ramon Barquin to pursue writing this
> > > book ASAP.  We are lucky to have Jeffrey Lapides leading this effort.
> > > Jeff has created a draft outline of goals and chapters that we aare
> > > reviewing today.
>
> > > The "draft" intended audiences:
>
> > >     * The RoR and Hobo novice, especially someone who wants to avoid
> > > RoR coding
> > >     * Technology leaders, architects, and evangelists
> > >     * A Technically savvy manager/designer who wants to develop but
> > > not code
> > >     * Advanced RoR developer who wants to go in a different direction
>
> > > Our goal is to have the first 100 pages by February 1...
>
> > > Stay tuned for more details.  To make this successful we will need
> > > input and editorial feedback from all.  How we will do this is yet
> > > TBD.
>
> > > Looking  forward to an exciting 2009!
>
> > > Owen
>
> > > On Dec 29, 5:31 am, Tom Locke <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>> While it would be nice to be able to use Hobo without Rails
> > >>> experience, it really doesn't seem practical - Hobo *is* Rails, in
> > >>> many parts. Trying to educate brand-new users about *everything*
> > >>> seems doomed to repeat much of the Rails docs.
>
> > >> Yes you would have to repeat a lot, but I'm not sure the word  
> > >> "doomed"
> > >> is warranted : ) In the world of docs, DRY is not a virtue.
>
> > >> Although there's a lot in Rails that Hobo people need a thorough  
> > >> grasp
> > >> of, there's also lot that they don't need to know tons about. E.g.
> > >> routing. Or rather, it's not that you don't need to know about
> > >> routing, but it becomes an advanced topic rather than an essential
> > >> one. The order of learning changes.
>
> > >> The only way to give a seamless learning experience is for a book/
> > >> course/other on Rails and Hobo together. It is a lot of work though.
>
> > >> I'm hoping someone else will write that book!
>
> > >> Tom- Hide quoted text -
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