Owen,

Is this still up? If so, count me on for feedback.

TF

On Dec 30 2008, 3:08 pm, Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> I meant Fultons "The Ruby Way."  Obie'sbookis "The Rails Way".
>
> Of course this reminded me of "The Zen Way" and "The Way of Zen," but
> my guess most of you are too young to remember Alan Watts. :)
>
> On Dec 30, 3:20 am, PTPT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > or maybe "Riding the Rails HOBO Style"
>
> > On Dec 29, 10:06 pm, PTPT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Riding Rails- The Hobo Way
>
> > > On Dec 29, 9:05 am, Ian Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Ooh that's good! Works on several levels and does what it says on the
> > > > tin! I vote for "The Hobo Code Guide".
>
> > > > On Dec 29, 6:17 pm, "Andrew Shindyapin" <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Or something like "The Hobo Code Guide" 
> > > > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo#Hobo_code)
>
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ian Wood
> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > This is excellent news indeed, I'd be happy to help out in any way
> > > > > > that I can.
> > > > > > As for the title how about: "Becoming a Hobo" :-)
>
> > > > > > On Dec 29, 5:58 pm,Owen<[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Thanks, Tiago, we WILL need it.
>
> > > > > > > We also need help for a REAL title. Until we get a brainstorm from
> > > > > > > someone we are using the interim designation "The Hobo Primer."
>
> > > > > > > -Owen
>
> > > > > > > On Dec 29, 10:41 am, Tiago Franco <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > > > > Excellent news and many thanks to the supporters.
>
> > > > > > > > You may count with my feedback if needed.
>
> > > > > > > > TF
>
> > > > > > > > On Dec 29, 3:27 pm,Owen<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Thanks, James--we'll need you!
>
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 29, 10:21 am, James Garlick <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > That's greatOwen, I'd be happy to provide feedback.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On 29 Dec 2008, at 15:11,Owenwrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Tom, James & All Dedicated Hoboists,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I received the green light from Ramon Barquin to pursue 
> > > > > > > > > > > writing
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > >bookASAP.  We are lucky to have Jeffrey Lapides leading 
> > > > > > > > > > >this
> > > > > > effort.
> > > > > > > > > > > Jeff has created a draft outline of goals and chapters 
> > > > > > > > > > > that we
> > > > > > aare
> > > > > > > > > > > reviewing today.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The "draft" intended audiences:
>
> > > > > > > > > > >     * The RoR and Hobo novice, especially someone who 
> > > > > > > > > > > wants to
> > > > > > avoid
> > > > > > > > > > > RoR coding
> > > > > > > > > > >     * Technology leaders, architects, and evangelists
> > > > > > > > > > >     * A Technically savvy manager/designer who wants to 
> > > > > > > > > > > develop
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > not code
> > > > > > > > > > >     * Advanced RoR developer who wants to go in a 
> > > > > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > direction
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Our goal is to have the first 100 pages by February 1...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Stay tuned for more details.  To make this successful we 
> > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > > > > input and editorial feedback from all.  How we will do 
> > > > > > > > > > > this is
> > > > > > yet
> > > > > > > > > > > TBD.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Looking  forward to an exciting 2009!
>
> > > > > > > > > > >Owen
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 29, 5:31 am, Tom Locke <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> While it would be nice to be able to use Hobo without 
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Rails
> > > > > > > > > > >>> experience, it really doesn't seem practical - Hobo 
> > > > > > > > > > >>> *is* Rails,
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > >>> many parts. Trying to educate brand-new users about
> > > > > > *everything*
> > > > > > > > > > >>> seems doomed to repeat much of the Rails docs.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Yes you would have to repeat a lot, but I'm not sure the 
> > > > > > > > > > >> word
> > > > > > > > > > >> "doomed"
> > > > > > > > > > >> is warranted : ) In the world of docs, DRY is not a 
> > > > > > > > > > >> virtue.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Although there's a lot in Rails that Hobo people need a 
> > > > > > > > > > >> thorough
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> grasp
> > > > > > > > > > >> of, there's also lot that they don't need to know tons 
> > > > > > > > > > >> about.
> > > > > > E.g.
> > > > > > > > > > >> routing. Or rather, it's not that you don't need to know 
> > > > > > > > > > >> about
> > > > > > > > > > >> routing, but it becomes an advanced topic rather than an
> > > > > > essential
> > > > > > > > > > >> one. The order of learning changes.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> The only way to give a seamless learning experience is 
> > > > > > > > > > >> for a
> > > > > >book/
> > > > > > > > > > >> course/other on Rails and Hobo together. It is a lot of 
> > > > > > > > > > >> work
> > > > > > though.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> I'm hoping someone else will write thatbook!
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Tom- Hide quoted text -
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