I think this is new for most of us--but very important to document. We have contract supporting the Peruvian population census distribution that may need a Hobo app at some point...
-Owen On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Scorpio <[email protected]> wrote: > i'm not quite sure i get the order of things. i translated the whole > yml file to the best of my ability and now do i need to put > > your_key: > one: singular_word > many: paucal_word > other: plural_word > > for every model at the top of the file or the version below? Because > unless I'm reading this wrong they should do the same thing > > pl: > activerecord: > models: > your_model: > > Once thats done what do i do with statements like edit_link: > "Edytuj {{model}}" where i need a 4th form not the base one ? > > > > Also.. where do i put the I18n.t('your_key', :count => n) selecting > the singular,paucal, plural forms? Sorry its my first try at > internationalization and i'm green as grass > > I'm gonna give an example so that I can be clear > 1 Kategoria > 2 Kategorie > 5 Kategorii > Edit/Update Kategorię > > Sorry to ask for a step by step guide but I have no idea how to call > those forms later in code (how do i tell i18n when to use what?). > Secondly how do i tell the app to use pl.dryml for rails messages > hobo.pl.dryml for hobo parts and app.pl for the grammar forms for my > app and all? > > On Oct 1, 10:11 pm, Domizio Demichelis <[email protected]> wrote: > > A little clarification: > > > > 1. Hobo i18n is simply Rails I18n applied to the hobo internals, i.e. you > > can change/translate the strings that hobo produce as its output, but the > > mechanism that do so is Rails I18n, not Hobo. > > > > 2. Rails I18n uses the I18n gem to do its job, so the real engine is the > > gem. If you are interested, you might google for it and read a little bit > > about its possibilities > > > > 3. AFAIK, the I18n gem has been designed to allows multi-pluralization > > languages such as Polish, with a real simple but powerful way to do so: > it > > looks up strings from a yml structure, and do its pluralization based on > the > > :count option. Set the right keys in the yml and pass the right :count > and > > you will pick the right pluralization for any word in any language. > > > > 4. The pluralization of different genders is achieved by simply add a key > > for each word or sentence you have to pluralize. I don't speak Polish, > but I > > speak Italian, Spanish and French that do have genders, and all those > > languages have not only different genders, but also a lot of exceptions. > > It's not a matter of a single "algorithm" to try to pluralize different > > genders... it's just a matter of writing 2 or 3 or 4 translated string > for > > each word or sentence you have to translate, depending of how many plural > > has your language, and even exceptions will be correctly translated if > you > > pass the right :count. > > > > your_key: > > one: singular_word > > many: paucal_word > > other: plural_word > > > > I didn't try with polish, but from what you said about pluralization I > guess > > that if your locale is :pl and you do something like > > > > n = 1 > > I18n.t('your_key', :count => n) > > #=> "singular_word" > > > > n = 3 > > I18n.t('your_key', :count => n) > > #=> "paucal_word" > > > > n = 100 > > I18n.t('your_key', :count => n) > > #=> "plural_word" > > > > So no algorithm, just plain key/value pairs. > > > > Now, to answer to your question: > > > > Is there a way to hard-code the plural and singular form of each model > > > > > for say 1,<2,4>, <5, infinity) items in a collection and then make the > > > i18n display that hard-coded grammar form depending on the number of > > > items in a collection ? > > > > Yes: just add the name of each of your models under: > > > > activerecord.models.<model_name> > > > > and add as many pluralization your language needs, like: > > > > pl: > > activerecord: > > models: > > your_model: > > one: singular_model_translation > > many: paucal_model_translation > > other: plural_model_translation > > your_other_model: > > one: ... > > many: ... > > other: ... > > > > Then you have to set the :pl as the locale and hobo will display the > correct > > translations. > > > > Hoping that helps. > > ciao > > dd > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Hobo Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<hobousers%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hobousers?hl=en. > > -- Thanks, Owen Owen Dall, Chief Systems Architect Barquin International www.barquin.com Cell: 410-991-0811 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hobo Users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hobousers?hl=en.
