> ===========
> Joyce you can not tell the imaginary from the real when you are like this
>
> Is that true or not?
Attached is a screen print of the suspicious email. It exists. It
is real. It is not imaginary.
====================The email exists - never doubted it.
Suspicious?
Possibly . . .======================Lobster, i have had years of therapy because of the stalking/kidnapping/rapes, and in all that time NOT ONCE was a diagnosis of paranoia or tendency towards paranoia given. I have had my records reviewed by the commonwealth here and there is nothing there that says anything about paranoia. Yes, i have issues from the abuse... in fact i am considered legally disabled because of it... But you know what? I have been able to work and earn a living (well, until the layoffs...) and i do pretty good all things considered... but i do have certain vulnerabilities.
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m m m . . .
How would you describe your tendency to be
overprotective
towards your 'security'?
towards your 'security'?
(quite natural given the past experiences)
That is what is being asked here
That is what is being asked here
Not the validity of what is happening
BUT HOW it is being interpreted.
This is were the core of the issue is
you are saying we must agree
that this email is suspicious
Why must we?
I totally understand that you experience it as suspicious . .
.
================
Again, attached is a screenshot of the suspicious
email. You say that in all likelihood it is not there...
well, look at the screen print. It is there and it is real...
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I understand that the email is real
Perhaps Joe who runs the Panhala list and is on this forum
can
provide some possibilities of how this 'suspicious' email came to
be?
============
And yes, the expected answers would have included how to go about
tracing and reporting it. One person actually wrote me and explained a different
scenario (other than the two that i had first come up with) for how the mail
could have been created by whomever did it, as well as info about reporting
it.
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Glad you obtained helpful advice
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> We have played this game before and it is YOU who is out of line
> (IMO)
Lob - i don't remember "playing this game" with you - i really
don't.
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OK
You wrote to me that one person
was pretending to be someone else
(a man pretending to be a woman I think it was)
and you were so freaked out that they should
be removed from that particular forum and never be allowed
to profane the sacred space of that forum
I thought your reaction was a little spooked.
I did not remove the person and I remember
you unsubscribed from practically every forum you were on
changed your name (yet again)
and - well how do you remember that episode?
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I DO remember telling ts on a different list to the effect
that i didn't want analysis on the list.
Well, i think on a technical forum when a person asks a question
and someone proposes some armchair psychology and the person being analyzed says
to stop, the person should stop... especially when you are dealing with someone
with significant deficits or limitations or challenges or whatever the right
word is. I think that when you are dealing with someone who already has issues
significant enough to earn an official label of being disabled - well, when that
person says stop, no armchair analysis, it should stop.
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I am sorry about your disability but I am not prepared to
disable others who are trying to enable you
to behave in a way that accomodates your vision of this forum
My vision is that people are quite within the remit to explain,
question or otherwise interpret peoples behaviour
and understanding of their interaction with technology
Just as you are quite entitled to be saddened by
people who (I truly believe) have no intent or desire
except for your personal good . . .
I mean ts in this case.
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> I felt
> I sensed
> I intuit
> NO ill will (far from it)
> from tsi had told him more than a yeat ago that i did not want analysis from him... Maybe he forgot...
==============
PerhapsUp to him to say what he wishesin this regard==============> Yet you feel slightedNo - slighted isn't the word for what i feel. I feel pretty sad, but not slighted.
=================Sad in what sense?or might that be construed as analysis?=================> I also sense
> I also intuit
> I also feel that
> most of what is occuring is to do with your internal processes
>
> What aspect of that is untrue?
It is not my internal process that you or ts state that the email
is imaginary "Yes Joyce this is how you trace something (that is in all
liklihood not there)" ...
It is not my internal process that people didn't stop when i asked
them to...
It is my internal process that i am damaged...
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I do not doubt that processes occur or that emails are real
That you are saddened by others not meeting your wishes
is whose internal response?
How can you gain or make some good of this?
That you are saddened by others not meeting your wishes
is whose internal response?
How can you gain or make some good of this?
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> So will you be apologising?
i already did apologize when i said something to the effect that i'm sorry that this happened...don;t remember the exact words, but i did start a sentence by saying i'm sorry... and if you read near the end of this post to which you are replying, i also said there that i'm sorry about all of this... So i have apologized twice. See, it is right here:
> i'm sorry about all of this, fwiw...
> love and peace,
> joyce===============That's OK.Everyone is sorry they are misunderstood ormisunderstand.How can communication be improved?===============
So now what?
love and peace,
joyce
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Up to you . . .
Lobster
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