On Mar 12, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Howard, Lee wrote:

>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-baker-opsawg-firewalls
>> "On Firewalls in Internet Security", Fred Baker, 20-Jan-12
> 
> Any chance of having such a conversation in the Security Area WG?  I 
> mentioned the debate to Sean Turner (Security AD), and he thought it would be 
> an excellent topic for security experts to discuss.  However, since there had 
> been no discussion on list, I did not get around to writing a draft, so I 
> have nothing to submit for the agenda.

I'm willing to enough to have the conversation there. I'd just like to have the 
conversation, as we seem to throw bats around regarding firewalls with ever 
really reaching a conclusion beyond "they are a market requirement regardless 
of what anyone thinks about them technically".

opsawg chairs, the issue is that homenet and opsawg conflict and I don't do a 
very good imitation of myself in a separate working group.
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