>>>>> "Brian" == Brian E Carpenter <Brian> writes:
    >> I much prefer to engineer for walled gardens using globally
    >> unique addresses GUA (not globally reachable) ("GUAnGR"?), than
    >> for NAT66.
    >> 
    >> I also want to point out that the experience with IPv4 "walled
    >> gardens" usually involves either operators squatting on
    >> "unallocated" address spaces, or enterprises running non-unique
    >> RFC1918 networks with VPNs/Remote-Access.  None of these things
    >> are going away.
    >> 
    >> The example of "Joe's web cam", and whether we should use: -
    >> ULA/GUA in DNS with views (what about caches and DNSSEC?)  or -
    >> ULA+GUA in DNS (multiple AAAA) plus Happy Eyeballs
    >> 
    >> is pertinent.  Because the ULA is a walled garden.  And if it's
    >> really "Joes' office webcam via VPN", then the Enterprise is a
    >> walled garden.

    Brian> But neither of those are "captive customers" in the sense
    Brian> that WAP threatened or that some carriers still seem to be
    Brian> hoping for.

So, is the term "walled garden" inappropriate then, and we are arguing
about nothing?

We aren't talking about captive customers.  The specific *technical*
requirement is actually:
         You can't *there* if you start with that source IP.
or:      If you want to go *there*, you must start from *here*
or:      Ingress filtering rules

(with allusions to: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WouldntStartFromHere )

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