Hi Mike,

Thanks for the comments.

On 19 Oct 2012, at 18:16, Michael Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 10/19/2012 09:36 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> We can take comments towards a -06 over the weekend.  The most substantial 
>> changes are in the Naming and Service Discovery section (3.7), so if you 
>> have limited time please focus your reading there.
> 
> One thing that I'm not sure whether it's been discussed or not is service 
> announcement.
> By service announcement, I mean where instead of multicasting out a message 
> looking
> for the canonical printer with all of its nasty properties especially for 
> things with batteries
> and lossy/slow networks, a device would instead announce its presence to 
> something
> that would later serve it up (eg, bind9, say).

I think this is covered in 3.7.4, certainly possible.

> That is, if we can posit a dns repository in our home edge routers, we can 
> avoid some
> of the insanity that ensues when you say that something MUST be strictly 
> zeroconf.
> I think we are long past the days where strict zeroconf should be the driving 
> principle;
> littleconf should be a valid option too.

And I don't think this possibility is excluded at all by the current arch text 
either. It talks of an authoritative name service running on the CER, with a 
dynamic registration service (e.g. dyndns).  I have added 'as far as possible' 
to the unmanaged text.

> Service announcement could also feed into things like Search where instead of
> having preset categories which make sense perhaps only to those who chose the
> category at the factory, we could also have structured and/or free-form text 
> with
> lots of  keywords and other identifying information that an indexer might 
> find useful.

That's probably straying a little into the UI side.  Again, I don't think we 
preclude that.  

> Mechanistically, we already have things like IXFR for DNS, so it's not likely 
> that
> this is wholesale invention, though it may well involve some tweaks. IXFR also
> gives the possibility for enrollment and access control which is pretty 
> problematic
> with service discovery.

I think these issues may come up in the mdnsext BoF - I encourage you to join 
that list and give comment there.

Tim


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