On 19 Oct 2012, at 17:55, Michael Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 10/19/2012 09:36 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
>> One item where there seemed to be a lack of a firm conclusion (despite some 
>> firm statements each way) was the question of using a single global name 
>> space or separate internal and external name spaces. The current text 
>> essentially says:
>> * The default is to use an ISP-provided domain in the homenet, but with the 
>> user able to use an independent domain name instead if preferred.
>> * If no global domain is available, the homenet uses either a ULQDN 
>> (preferred) or ALQDN, and these are scoped to the local homenet (i.e. the 
>> homenet can only be reached remotely if using a global domain).
> 
> If you get an ISP's name couldn't you always with or without their cooperation
> generate names of the form host.<uniquestring>.isp.net? Where <uniquestring>
> is either statistically unique (cf ULA's), or is human-significant and unique 
> (eg,
> host.casasanchez.customers.isp.net).

I would assume here that the name the ISP delegates includes such a unique 
string, e.g. cust1234.someisp.net.  Maybe for an extra fee they'll let you pick 
a unique string to replace 'cust1234'.  Personally (and I note at IETF85 we 
found that half the homenet attendees had 110+ domains each!) I believe it's 
important to allow the homenet to use an ISP-independent domain name as simply 
as possible.

> Doing so would potentially take the "otherness" of .local away, and make the
> human factors issue less stark. Also: if we end up with a repository in the
> CPE, say, it makes transitions between vanity domains, hosted domain (ala
> ISP or some cloud service), and local/isolated domains easier it seems to me.

Certainly keeping as much of this as simple as possible for the homenet user, 
while not precluding more advanced options, is important.

tim
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