On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Michael Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 10/22/2012 07:22 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
>
>>
>> And I don't think this possibility is excluded at all by the current arch
>> text either. It talks of an authoritative name service running on the CER,
>> with a dynamic registration service (e.g. dyndns).  I have added 'as far as
>> possible' to the unmanaged text.
>>
>
> It's been hard for me to gauge what is and isn't in scope on the naming
> front. For the most part, this wg looks like it's only interested in
> putting
> some band-aides on mdns/dns-sd. That's a mistake, IMO, because there's
> nothing inevitable about a zeroconf driven design. We should consider
> littleconf solutions especially for naming because there is no way that
> mikes-toothbrush.mtcc.com got named that way coming from the factory.
>

Not sure how you can draw that conclusion; there seem to be lovers and
haters of mDNS.  To the extent that it's unsuited for multi-link topologies,
a BoF has been approved to discuss problems and requirements.  I hope
that folks interested in a DNS-based solution to service discovery and
naming will join the mdnsext mailing list.

I have nothing wrong with littleconf per se, but there seems to me a chicken
and egg problem: how does one engage a device (presumably running a
web-based UI) initially in order to administer it?  Is that by address or by
name?  If by name, then how does it work?

>
>

>>  Mechanistically, we already have things like IXFR for DNS, so it's not
>>> likely that
>>> this is wholesale invention, though it may well involve some tweaks.
>>> IXFR also
>>> gives the possibility for enrollment and access control which is pretty
>>> problematic
>>> with service discovery.
>>>
>> I think these issues may come up in the mdnsext BoF - I encourage you to
>> join that list and give comment there.
>>
>>  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd think that a mdnsext bof is interested
> in
> extending mdns. What I'm talking about has nothing to do with multicast,
> dns or otherwise. So I'm not sure that my participation would be all that
> welcome.
>
> The mdnsext BoF is interested in extensions to DNS-SD and mDNS, including
the possibility of using the latter to bootstrap (seed) a DNS directory,
perhaps
under some guidance from a lay user.

Regards, -K-

Mike
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