Hi,

a DHCPv6 option to deliver such kind of information, that is, relation
between DNS domain names and DNS servers, is almost baked.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mif-dns-server-selection-12

Thanks.

2012/10/26 Teco Boot <[email protected]>:
>
> Op 26 okt. 2012, om 02:33 heeft Lorenzo Colitti het volgende geschreven:
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:08 AM, RJ Atkinson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not comfortable with overloading a routing
>> protocol for use as a DNS transport mechanism.
>
>
> Sorry, I didn't mean "routing protocol". I meant "Homenet DNS Information
> Distribution Protocol" (HIDP). I would expect a useful way to carry HIDP
> would be using the homenet routing protocol which the homenet needs to
> implement anyway, but other implementations such as global IPv6 multicast,
> its very own DHCPv6 option, SMTP between homenet devices, or carrier pigeon
> are possible and encouraged. After all, this is the IETF: there's always
> more than one way of doing things, and at least one of them is always a
> DHCPv6 option.
>
> But seriously: why are you not comfortable with this idea? We need a routing
> protocol for the homenet anyway. A link-state routing protocol can carry
> multiple TLVs, including TLVs for DNS servers. Routing protocols can be
> authenticated. The devices that need to propagage DNS are likely going to be
> home routers. Why not use the routing protocol?
>
> Because we need this info in all nodes. I'm not sure we shall have
> interactions between hosts and the routing protocol.
>
>
>>
>> I'm also nervous about both DNS authorisation
>> and DNS authentication.  Who is allowed to make
>> which DNS advertisements and how do I authenticate
>> the received DNS advertisement as both valid and
>> authorised ?
>
>
> I don't see a difference. There is no authorization or authentication today.
> When you get a DNS server via DHCP, you believe it, or choose not to believe
> it, based on no information at all. If there's a rogue DHCP server on the
> link that hands you a rogue DNS server, then guess what, you lose. The only
> thing that would change here is that you would use HIDP to distribute that
> information more than one hop away. Whatever mechanism that you want to use
> to authorize and authenticate DNS servers can be used regardless of whether
> you learn them via HIDP or via DHCP.
>
>>
>>   (NB: With ordinary DNS, the answer is DNSsec.
>>    With mDNS, DNSsec also probably can work.)
>>
>> Surely there is some alternative approach that
>> doesn't require such overloading and complexity.
>
>
> Well, let's see. You have an ISP that hands you a DNS server using DHCPv6.
> You're also connected to a walled garden that hands you a global but
> partitioned IPv6 address that can only reach the walled garden, and gives
> you its own DNS server. You want things to work more than one hop away. How
> would you implement this?
>
> BRDP.
>
> Teco.
>
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