On 1 Jun 2014, at 13:38, Sander Steffann <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Op 1 jun. 2014, om 12:50 heeft Gert Doering <[email protected]> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 10:47:03AM +0200, Pierre Pfister wrote:
>>> So even if most will agree that supporting multiple routing protocol is a 
>>> madness in the general case. 
>>> It?s not that hard to ?support it? while requiring one single routing 
>>> protocol as mandatory in home networks.
>>> And whenever we want to move to another protocol, maybe in 20 years, it 
>>> will allow transitioning softly.
>> 
>> Having multiple routing protocols and select between them is already 
>> permitted by the current HNCP draft (for example).
>> 
>> The question was more whether "add ISIS today" would bring a benefit to
>> homenet, and I still maintain "no" - to the contrary, it is harmful - as
>> you said, we can be happy if CPE vendors get one protocol right.
> 
> +1
> 
> I personally don't really care about which protocol that should be (I have 
> some preferences, but "getting one protocol right" outweighs all those 
> preferences by a huge margin) as long as we design something that is easy 
> enough for CPE vendors to implement correctly so that for the home user 
> everything just works.
> 
> Needing to implement multiple protocols, having to negotiate with other 
> devices which of those protocols to use, network flaps because a device was 
> added to the network that doesn't support the protocol that the other devices 
> agreed upon etc. don't help in this regard.
> 
> Please remember: the end goal is to create a situation for home users that 
> just works and works reliably, not to design the most fancy and cool 
> combination of protocols possible…

Just as a reminder, here is what we converged on at IETF89 for text in the 
homenet arch. The “zero or one” protocol message was clear. I don’t recall a 
clear answer on whether to pass config info via the routing protocol or a 
separate protocol, but as HNCP shapes up as a proposal I suspect the tradeoffs 
will become clearer towards an answer there.

  "At most one routing protocol should be in use at a given time in a
   given homenet.  In some simple topologies, no routing protocol may be
   needed.  If more than one routing protocol is supported by routers in
   a given homenet, then a mechanism is required to ensure that all
   routers in that homenet use the same protocol."

Tim
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